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[squeak-dev] linux squeak 3.10.2

Ralph Boland
I am currently using Squeak 3.8 and am quite happy with it
except that when a debugging window comes up all other open
windows are redrawn which can be very annoying  especially since
I tend to have a lot of windows open (many that I have just failed
to close).

I downloaded the most recent version of Linux which I assumed to
be 3.10.2 but it was  3.10.1 instead. 
Is there are way to get Squeak 3.10.2 for Linux? 
If not, when will it be available?

Will 3.10.1(2) fix my problems with window redrawing?

The software I am writing involves implementing algorithms for
building finite state machines from regular expressions.
Thus I assume that there are no features in 3.10 that I really
need for my work.
Am I right?

Thanks,

Ralph Boland


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Re: [squeak-dev] linux squeak 3.10.2

Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi: Perhaps this link is useful for you.

http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/

cheers,

Mariano

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Ralph Boland <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am currently using Squeak 3.8 and am quite happy with it
except that when a debugging window comes up all other open
windows are redrawn which can be very annoying  especially since
I tend to have a lot of windows open (many that I have just failed
to close).

I downloaded the most recent version of Linux which I assumed to
be 3.10.2 but it was  3.10.1 instead. 
Is there are way to get Squeak 3.10.2 for Linux? 
If not, when will it be available?

Will 3.10.1(2) fix my problems with window redrawing?

The software I am writing involves implementing algorithms for
building finite state machines from regular expressions.
Thus I assume that there are no features in 3.10 that I really
need for my work.
Am I right?

Thanks,

Ralph Boland






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Re: [squeak-dev] linux squeak 3.10.2

Ken Causey-3
In reply to this post by Ralph Boland
I apologize in advance if I'm simply stating the obvious here, but I
can't tell what you mean exactly from the below.

First, as I'm sure you are aware, Squeak is fundamentally made up of two
parts: the Virtual Machine and the Image.  We'll ignore the source code
aspects for now which are of course 2 other files.  The development of
the two main pieces occurs in parallel certainly, but somewhat
separately.  The result of this is that in effect at all times there are
two pieces with slightly different version numbers that are both
current.

As Mariano mentioned the usual site to find the very latest Unix VM is

http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/

Where you will currently find a 3.10-4 version.  The basis for this
version number is fundamentally the major version of the image used to
generate it, and a minor version number as new VM releases are issued
between major image releases.  This is not completely consistent across
platforms so you will see variations in version numbers for Mac and
Windows and other platforms for the VM.  By and large the VM changes
slowly and there is rarely a need for most people to update it very
often.

The Image is the primary element most people are interested in and where
most change occurs.  This part is cross platform and the same image can
be used with any reasonably modern VM.  The most recent release is
3.10.2-7179 and in general one can find it at

http://ftp.squeak.org/current_stable/

Of course in practice the obvious thing to do when looking for the
latest release is to go to

http://www.squeak.org/

where you might find the Download link in the menu to the left or
perhaps the Downloads box at the right.  For Unix the box on the right
simply points to the Download page.  On the Download page you find a
number of links within sections for each platform for the VM and
sections for the Image and Sources.

Frankly I'm curious where you downloaded 3.10.1 (Image or VM?) and got
the impression it was the current release.

Ken

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 18:36 -0700, Ralph Boland wrote:

> I am currently using Squeak 3.8 and am quite happy with it
> except that when a debugging window comes up all other open
> windows are redrawn which can be very annoying  especially since
> I tend to have a lot of windows open (many that I have just failed
> to close).
>
> I downloaded the most recent version of Linux which I assumed to
> be 3.10.2 but it was  3.10.1 instead.  
> Is there are way to get Squeak 3.10.2 for Linux?  
> If not, when will it be available?
>
> Will 3.10.1(2) fix my problems with window redrawing?
>
> The software I am writing involves implementing algorithms for
> building finite state machines from regular expressions.
> Thus I assume that there are no features in 3.10 that I really
> need for my work.
> Am I right?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ralph Boland



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[squeak-dev] Re: linux squeak 3.10.2

Klaus D. Witzel
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:00:17 +0100, Ken Causey wrote:

Ken, this your explanation is very insightful and *very* informative, may  
I vote for adding it to

- http://www.squeak.org/Download/

between the sections "Virtual Machine" and "Image file".

Thank you in advance, and of course for the good wording.

/Klaus

> ... Squeak is fundamentally made up of two
> parts: the Virtual Machine and the Image.  We'll ignore the source code
> aspects for now which are of course 2 other files.  The development of
> the two main pieces occurs in parallel certainly, but somewhat
> separately.  The result of this is that in effect at all times there are
> two pieces with slightly different version numbers that are both
> current.
>
> As Mariano mentioned the usual site to find the very latest Unix VM is
>
> http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/
>
> Where you will currently find a 3.10-4 version.  The basis for this
> version number is fundamentally the major version of the image used to
> generate it, and a minor version number as new VM releases are issued
> between major image releases.  This is not completely consistent across
> platforms so you will see variations in version numbers for Mac and
> Windows and other platforms for the VM.  By and large the VM changes
> slowly and there is rarely a need for most people to update it very
> often.
>
> The Image is the primary element most people are interested in and where
> most change occurs.  This part is cross platform and the same image can
> be used with any reasonably modern VM.  The most recent release is
> 3.10.2-7179 and in general one can find it at
>
> http://ftp.squeak.org/current_stable/
>
> Of course in practice the obvious thing to do when looking for the
> latest release is to go to
>
> http://www.squeak.org/
>
> where you might find the Download link in the menu to the left or
> perhaps the Downloads box at the right.  For Unix the box on the right
> simply points to the Download page.  On the Download page you find a
> number of links within sections for each platform for the VM and
> sections for the Image and Sources.
...

--
"If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it".  
Albert Einstein


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Re: [squeak-dev] Re: linux squeak 3.10.2

Mariano Martinez Peck
+1

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:00:17 +0100, Ken Causey wrote:

Ken, this your explanation is very insightful and *very* informative, may I vote for adding it to

- http://www.squeak.org/Download/

between the sections "Virtual Machine" and "Image file".

Thank you in advance, and of course for the good wording.

/Klaus

... Squeak is fundamentally made up of two

parts: the Virtual Machine and the Image.  We'll ignore the source code
aspects for now which are of course 2 other files.  The development of
the two main pieces occurs in parallel certainly, but somewhat
separately.  The result of this is that in effect at all times there are
two pieces with slightly different version numbers that are both
current.

As Mariano mentioned the usual site to find the very latest Unix VM is

http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/

Where you will currently find a 3.10-4 version.  The basis for this
version number is fundamentally the major version of the image used to
generate it, and a minor version number as new VM releases are issued
between major image releases.  This is not completely consistent across
platforms so you will see variations in version numbers for Mac and
Windows and other platforms for the VM.  By and large the VM changes
slowly and there is rarely a need for most people to update it very
often.

The Image is the primary element most people are interested in and where
most change occurs.  This part is cross platform and the same image can
be used with any reasonably modern VM.  The most recent release is
3.10.2-7179 and in general one can find it at

http://ftp.squeak.org/current_stable/

Of course in practice the obvious thing to do when looking for the
latest release is to go to

http://www.squeak.org/

where you might find the Download link in the menu to the left or
perhaps the Downloads box at the right.  For Unix the box on the right
simply points to the Download page.  On the Download page you find a
number of links within sections for each platform for the VM and
sections for the Image and Sources.
...

--
"If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it". Albert Einstein