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Michael Haupt-3

[squeak-dev] talk on Newspeak online

Hi,

Gilad Bracha's talk on the Newspeak language (which he gave at the
Hasso-Plattner-Institut in Potsdam, Germany on March 11) is now online
at http://www.tele-task.de/page50_lecture3490.html.

Best,

Michael

Andreas.Raab

[squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

Argh. Realplayer. Any chance to get this in a format that one can
actually watch? See attached "General Error"...

Cheers,
- Andreas

Michael Haupt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Gilad Bracha's talk on the Newspeak language (which he gave at the
> Hasso-Plattner-Institut in Potsdam, Germany on March 11) is now online
> at http://www.tele-task.de/page50_lecture3490.html.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
>

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vaidasd

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

It works for me on XP, RealPlayer 10.5
Vaidas

Lukas Renggli

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

It doesn't work on the latest RealPlayer on OS X either :-(

Lukas

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Igor Stasenko

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

Is there any chance to have a video in different (more open) format?

2008/4/18 Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]>:
> It doesn't work on the latest RealPlayer on OS X either :-(
>
> Lukas
>
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
>
>

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Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Michael Haupt-3

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

Dear all,

we do not have influence on the format the Tele-Task videos are published in.

Best,

Michael

Alejandro F. Reimondo

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

Do not worked here.
Is there someone that can convert the video to a popular format?
thanks in advance,
Ale.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Haupt" <[hidden email]>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

> Dear all,
>
> we do not have influence on the format the Tele-Task videos are published
> in.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
>

Damien Cassou-3

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

I'm also interested in a new format.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Alejandro F. Reimondo
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Do not worked here.
> Is there someone that can convert the video to a popular format?
> thanks in advance,
> Ale.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Haupt" <[hidden email]>
> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > we do not have influence on the format the Tele-Task videos are published
> in.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Bert Freudenberg

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

In reply to this post by Andreas.Raab

On 18.04.2008, at 09:17, Andreas Raab wrote:
> Argh. Realplayer. Any chance to get this in a format that one can
> actually watch? See attached "General Error"...

Who is "General Error" and what is he doing on your hard drive? ;-)

>> http://www.tele-task.de/page50_lecture3490.html.

Works fine for me on OS X, Real Player Version 10.1.0 (412).

On Linux, the Helix Player is supposed to play Real files.

- Bert -

Lukas Renggli

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

Mhh, not being behind the university proxy helps here.

Lukas

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Alejandro F. Reimondo

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

In reply to this post by Damien Cassou-3

I have converted the slides from ".rm" format to windows media format
using PocketPC (wide screen) profile, to see the slides unplugged.
The video can be downloaded from my swiki server (temporary store)
at http://www.aleReimondo.com.ar/Temp
(The file will be removed during next week)
best,
Ale.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

> I'm also interested in a new format.
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Alejandro F. Reimondo
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Do not worked here.
>> Is there someone that can convert the video to a popular format?
>> thanks in advance,
>> Ale.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Haupt" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>> <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > we do not have influence on the format the Tele-Task videos are
>> > published
>> in.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Damien Cassou
> Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
> luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
>

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>
>

wilkesj

Re: [squeak-dev] talk on Newspeak online

In reply to this post by Michael Haupt-3

Really interesting talk.

Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
into the main squeak vm?

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Michael Haupt <[hidden email]> wrote:

Lukas Renggli

Re: [squeak-dev] talk on Newspeak online

> Really interesting talk.
>
> Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
> into the main squeak vm?

Yes, amazing what they did in so little time.

Squeak looks really old compared to that.

Lukas

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Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Bert Freudenberg

Re: [squeak-dev] talk on Newspeak online

In reply to this post by wilkesj

Certainly. However, Gilad said they do not intend to release it.

- Bert -

On 19.04.2008, at 15:40, Wilkes Joiner wrote:

> Really interesting talk.
>
> Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
> into the main squeak vm?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Michael Haupt <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Gilad Bracha's talk on the Newspeak language (which he gave at the
>> Hasso-Plattner-Institut in Potsdam, Germany on March 11) is now
>> online
>> at http://www.tele-task.de/page50_lecture3490.html.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michael
>>

Andreas.Raab

[squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

In reply to this post by wilkesj

Wilkes Joiner wrote:
> Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
> into the main squeak vm?

Sure, let's look at it. Where is it? (and how can watch the video???)

Cheers,
- Andreas

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Michael Haupt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Gilad Bracha's talk on the Newspeak language (which he gave at the
>> Hasso-Plattner-Institut in Potsdam, Germany on March 11) is now online
>> at http://www.tele-task.de/page50_lecture3490.html.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>
>

Michael Davies-2

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wilkes Joiner wrote:
>
> > Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
> > into the main squeak vm?
> >
>
> Sure, let's look at it. Where is it? (and how can watch the video???)
>

I understood, from what he says towards the end, that the code is
currently proprietary, although he's hopeful that he will be able to
persuade the Cadence managers of the benefits of open-sourcing it.
(Sorry I can't help you with your video problems except to add another
data point - it works okay for me using RealPlayer 10.1 on Leopard
10.5.2).

Andreas.Raab

[squeak-dev] Re: talk on Newspeak online

Michael Davies wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Wilkes Joiner wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
>>> into the main squeak vm?
>>>
>> Sure, let's look at it. Where is it? (and how can watch the video???)
>
> I understood, from what he says towards the end, that the code is
> currently proprietary, although he's hopeful that he will be able to
> persuade the Cadence managers of the benefits of open-sourcing it.

Well, in that case let's wait and see.

> (Sorry I can't help you with your video problems except to add another
> data point - it works okay for me using RealPlayer 10.1 on Leopard
> 10.5.2).

I even upgraded to the latest real player and still no luck :-(

Cheers,
- Andreas

Has van der Krieken

Re: [squeak-dev] talk on Newspeak online

In reply to this post by Michael Haupt-3

Hello,

Found another Newspeak presentation here:

http://www.academicresourcecenter.net/curriculum/pfv.aspx?ID=7231

Regards, Has.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Michael Haupt <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Gilad Bracha's talk on the Newspeak language (which he gave at the
Hasso-Plattner-Institut in Potsdam, Germany on March 11) is now online
at http://www.tele-task.de/page50_lecture3490.html.

Best,

Michael

Damien Pollet

Re: [squeak-dev] talk on Newspeak online

In reply to this post by Bert Freudenberg

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Certainly. However, Gilad said they do not intend to release it.
>
> - Bert -
>
> On 19.04.2008, at 15:40, Wilkes Joiner wrote:
>
> > Really interesting talk.
> >
> > Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
> > into the main squeak vm?

Hmm, I understood the contrary, that he was trying to convince his
management that opensource was the way to go…

--
Damien Pollet
type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

wilkesj

Re: [squeak-dev] talk on Newspeak online

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Damien Pollet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Certainly. However, Gilad said they do not intend to release it.
> >
> > - Bert -
> >
> > On 19.04.2008, at 15:40, Wilkes Joiner wrote:
> >
> > > Really interesting talk.
> > >
> > > Is there anyway that the FFI his team created could be merged back
> > > into the main squeak vm?
>
> Hmm, I understood the contrary, that he was trying to convince his
> management that opensource was the way to go…
>

Understandably, he doesn't want to unleash Newspeak right now. I'm
hoping that they will release just the FFI vm enhancements. Assuming
that would be relatively simple to release independently.

- Wilkes

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