Posted by Ben Coman on Jun 10, 2013; 3:06pm
URL: https://forum.world.st/inspect-returns-iOf-SystemWindow-and-not-receiver-tp4692399p4692640.html

Sabine Knöfel wrote:

Hi Igor,

ok. Everyone has other programming habits....

Greetings
Sabine

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Igor Stasenko [via Smalltalk]
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On 10 June 2013 10:52, Sabine Knöfel <[hidden email]> wrote:
    

Hi Igor,

thanks!

Don't you agree with me that in this point, Pharo should have the same
behaviour as the other smalltalk dialects (VisualAge/IBM Smalltalk,
VisualWorks, Gemstone)?

      

i don't have strong opinion on that.
for me, this is not a big deal.

    

Breaks the Principal of Least Surprise for those you want to attract from other dialects.  They may end up with a strong opinion on it :)
I guess they can always create a #myInspect method to do what they want.

Clément Bera wrote:

I think the reason was the need of registering onWindowClose: event or
closing the window by the code easily. Now you can do :
| w |
w := Object inspect.
w onWindowClosed: [ ... ].
...
w close.

  

Perhaps that could as easily be...
w := Object inspectOnWindowClosed: [...].
or...
w := Object inspector.
w  onWindowClosed: [...].

The latter since 'inspector' in more of a noun to which you might assign actions where 'inspect' which is more of a verb.

cheers -ben

Greetings
Sabine

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Igor Stasenko [via Smalltalk]
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On 9 June 2013 08:03, Sabine Knöfel <[hidden email]> wrote:

        

I should give an example why this is not useful for me.

While developing, I use >>inspect to see, what is in any object AND I
want
the app to proceed.
E.g. while creating a report, I want to see the table columns in an
inspector.
I don't want to halt and debug, I only want to see an inspector.

self currentPage        add:
                (PDFDataTableWithColumnsCaptionElement new
                        captions: self costReportDaysTableColumns
inspect;
                        data: ...;

Now, I have to write it like that

self costReportDaysTableColumns inspect.
self currentPage add:
                (PDFDataTableWithColumnsCaptionElement new
                        captions: self costReportDaysTableColumns ;
                        data: ...;

Yes, this is possible but it is not so easigoing as simply put an
inspect
somewhere.

          

you still can use it:

 self currentPage        add:
                 (PDFDataTableWithColumnsCaptionElement new
                         captions: (self costReportDaysTableColumns
inspect; yourself);
                         data: ...;

        

Remarks:
1) I develop a seaside app. I am not interested in the System Window;-)
2) I cant find a selector >>onWindowClosed:
3) >>inspect is a selector which exists in every smalltalk dialect. In
every
smalltalk dialect I worked with, inspect returned the receiver.  It is
kind
of standard IMHO.




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