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>> Bert, are you serious?
>>
>> Enough with the children! It's been done and redone and overdone. The
>> past and the future confounded. Why can't we live the present living?
>> You're talking about something that might (or might not) produce
>> engineers in the next, say, 20 years? Smalltalk will be around 50
>> years by then. I find it painful that our community wouldn't be a
>> little bit more practical, for a change..
>>
>> Right here, right now.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> PS: I am so sorry... I don't even have spare children to furiously
>> train on Squeak...
>>
>> --
>>
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> +10
>
> Seriously, stop talking about kids, who cares, I'll be retired by the
> time they're useful. Programming languages are tools that are
> primarily used by and useful for adults, they should be aimed at
> adults. I want Smalltalk to be usable now, not at some unspecified
> time in some imaginary future where it takes over the world by getting
> kids before they've been introduced to other environments. It's pure
> fantasy to think this'll happen, it won't. This is the attitude that
> holds Squeak back and prevents anyone from taking it too seriously.
> This is why Pharo will continue to steal mind-share and Squeak will
> die.
>
+10.
1. Squeak for developers who need a modern & sound smalltalk
2. Squeak for teachers/children/endusers who will use a wonderfull
environment produced by software engineers.
sitting in the lab.