Hi tim
I was asked what was the status of "Fnestrai" what is its status. Do we have a chance to get it for squeak? Stef |
Am 15.10.2006 um 09:46 schrieb stephane ducasse:
> Hi tim > > I was asked what was the status of "Fnestrai" what is its status. > Do we have a chance to get it for squeak? What do you mean by "get it"? Take it ;) "Areithfa Ffenestri" support is in the Mac and Windows VMs. You just need to install the image code. The only download location I know is Ffenestri-b1.sar in John's iDisk (http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/ FileSharing.html) under experimental/TweakFfenestri Some of the code might be specific to Tweak, but the plugin certainly is not. You should at least be able to call the primitives to open windows, display a form etc. - Bert - |
On 15-Oct-06, at 4:06 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Am 15.10.2006 um 09:46 schrieb stephane ducasse: > >> Hi tim >> >> I was asked what was the status of "Fnestrai" what is its status. >> Do we have a chance to get it for squeak? > > What do you mean by "get it"? Take it ;) > > "Areithfa Ffenestri" support is in the Mac and Windows VMs. And RISC OS! :-) It *should* be easy enough to add to unix as well. There is nothing very difficult about it, mostly some cleaning up of vm apis to allow specifying a window handle instead of assuming a single window. > You just need to install the image code. The only download location > I know is Ffenestri-b1.sar in John's iDisk (http://homepage.mac.com/ > johnmci/FileSharing.html) under experimental/TweakFfenestri > > Some of the code might be specific to Tweak, but the plugin > certainly is not. You should at least be able to call the > primitives to open windows, display a form etc. Absolutely. The original development testing was done with workspace doits to open windows, display in them, fetch events from them. John did some demo stuff to try to hook up individual project windows to host windows. I think it should be a case of hooking individual windows to host windows instead. Somebody with good knowledge of morphic would need to look at that. See http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/ squeak/3862 tim -- tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Oxymorons: Peace force |
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Ya, please take it , the mac vm for *years* now has been compiled to
support this feature, plus mac menu bars. A good chunk of the code there was designed to interface the tweak logic to the Ffenestri logic. A Ffenestri aware VM tags each UI event with a window number since if one thinks about it mouse clicks, moves, etc, window open/ close, all have a target window which is their target action. Historical Squeak I'm afraid only has a Display which has no knowledge of that there might be more than one Display since it's a global and used oh in a million places without context it's a bit hard to *tweak* heh. However Tweak makes Display an instance variable, the same for the UI event queue. Thus the code takes the upcoming events, and deposits the event onto the event queue for the Tweak World that is managing the UI events and Display for that window, and of course when a Tweak world draws it's drawing to a display surface for a particular world. The VM logic then maps to/from a window index value to the internal host window. Mind I'm afraid due to lack of interest and I'm afraid the Sophie team has been busy working on other more important infrastucture things we've not kept the Ffenestri logic up to date. Mind it could be construed that it should be bundled into Tweak as a feature versus an addon. As for the quicktime plugin, that lurks in the Mac VM as a plugin for the last 6 months or so, the code is available via the SVN source tree for the Slang side (I hope). The majority of the code is in FFI and found in the Sophie respository. Basically the Sophie MoviePlayer takes a URI, where the URI can be local or remote, and provides a hierarchy to playback media using the quicktime plugin & FFI, or straight quicktime via FFI , or the mpeg plugin, or the various sound playback logic in Squeak AIFF for example, or failure. The quicktime plugin only adds the feature of rending a frame to a Squeak display surface, and signalling a semaphore when the frame is rendered. This removes one frame render step and provides better synchronization to frame drawing. If the plugin does not exist we poll quicktime for frames and copy to a squeak form and render. That of course takes much more CPU. On 15-Oct-06, at 4:06 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Am 15.10.2006 um 09:46 schrieb stephane ducasse: > >> Hi tim >> >> I was asked what was the status of "Fnestrai" what is its status. >> Do we have a chance to get it for squeak? > > What do you mean by "get it"? Take it ;) > > "Areithfa Ffenestri" support is in the Mac and Windows VMs. You > just need to install the image code. The only download location I > know is Ffenestri-b1.sar in John's iDisk (http://homepage.mac.com/ > johnmci/FileSharing.html) under experimental/TweakFfenestri > > Some of the code might be specific to Tweak, but the plugin > certainly is not. You should at least be able to call the > primitives to open windows, display a form etc. > > - Bert - > > > > -- ======================================================================== === John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== === |
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>> Hi tim
>> >> I was asked what was the status of "Fnestrai" what is its status. >> Do we have a chance to get it for squeak? > > What do you mean by "get it"? Take it ;) > > "Areithfa Ffenestri" support is in the Mac and Windows VMs. Ok I missed that info > You just need to install the image code. The only download location > I know is Ffenestri-b1.sar in John's iDisk (http://homepage.mac.com/ > johnmci/FileSharing.html) under experimental/TweakFfenestri Cool I will have a look. > > Some of the code might be specific to Tweak, but the plugin > certainly is not. You should at least be able to call the > primitives to open windows, display a form etc. > > - Bert - > > > > |
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