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Ken Causey-3
I would like to suggest that the community get used to using
http://wiki.squeak.org/ in preference to our usual
http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/ .

As has been correctly pointed out there is a long history in the search
engines of minnow URLs and while it would be nice for those to continue
to work in the long run, I don't think it is realistic that GA. Tech is
going to want their hostname used on a server which they do not host or
maintain.

I think we simply need to face the reality that at some point we are
going to lose that URL.  To that end I suggest that we immediately begin
using http://wiki.squeak.org/ in every case.

I have it setup so that URLs like  http://wiki.squeak.org/5888 are
correctly redirected for now and once the Swiki is moved hopefully the
same URLs will work later.

Hopefully if we start using these URLs sooner than later the search
engines will begin picking them up even before the use is necessary.
Realistically we are going to have trouble with search engines for a
long time to come, but it can only help to get started now.

Ken




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Re: wiki.squeak.org

Giovanni Giorgi-3
By the way you can give an hint to google.
When accessing to
http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/
you can reply with a special http reply"Moved"
to redirect it to
http://wiki.squeak.org/
The search engine will update itself in a snap.
Bye bye

On 10/30/06, Ken Causey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I would like to suggest that the community get used to using
> http://wiki.squeak.org/ in preference to our usual
> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/ .
>
> As has been correctly pointed out there is a long history in the search
> engines of minnow URLs and while it would be nice for those to continue
> to work in the long run, I don't think it is realistic that GA. Tech is
> going to want their hostname used on a server which they do not host or
> maintain.
>
> I think we simply need to face the reality that at some point we are
> going to lose that URL.  To that end I suggest that we immediately begin
> using http://wiki.squeak.org/ in every case.
>
> I have it setup so that URLs like  http://wiki.squeak.org/5888 are
> correctly redirected for now and once the Swiki is moved hopefully the
> same URLs will work later.
>
> Hopefully if we start using these URLs sooner than later the search
> engines will begin picking them up even before the use is necessary.
> Realistically we are going to have trouble with search engines for a
> long time to come, but it can only help to get started now.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Simon Michael
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+1, great idea Ken. When we can get minnow's server to redirect the old
urls, this would be a done deal. Do you know who could arrange that ?


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Re: wiki.squeak.org

Ken Causey-3
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That's a very good idea but not something I can implement since it must
be done on minnow once the Swiki is shut down.

Jochen, Mark:

What Giovanni is getting at here is whether it is possible for minnow to
report a 301 (Permanently Moved) reply pointing to
http://wiki.squeak.org/ at least for http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/
once the content has been moved?

By the way, is the intention to move just the /squeak/ section of the
Swiki or the entire content?

Ken Causey

On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 10:18 +0100, Giovanni Giorgi wrote:

> By the way you can give an hint to google.
> When accessing to
> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/
> you can reply with a special http reply"Moved"
> to redirect it to
> http://wiki.squeak.org/
> The search engine will update itself in a snap.
> Bye bye
>
> On 10/30/06, Ken Causey <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I would like to suggest that the community get used to using
> > http://wiki.squeak.org/ in preference to our usual
> > http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/ .
> >
> > As has been correctly pointed out there is a long history in the search
> > engines of minnow URLs and while it would be nice for those to continue
> > to work in the long run, I don't think it is realistic that GA. Tech is
> > going to want their hostname used on a server which they do not host or
> > maintain.
> >
> > I think we simply need to face the reality that at some point we are
> > going to lose that URL.  To that end I suggest that we immediately begin
> > using http://wiki.squeak.org/ in every case.
> >
> > I have it setup so that URLs like  http://wiki.squeak.org/5888 are
> > correctly redirected for now and once the Swiki is moved hopefully the
> > same URLs will work later.
> >
> > Hopefully if we start using these URLs sooner than later the search
> > engines will begin picking them up even before the use is necessary.
> > Realistically we are going to have trouble with search engines for a
> > long time to come, but it can only help to get started now.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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