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[ANN] Alan Kay to talk about "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming" at HPI in Potsdam
 
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It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming" Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00 Additional information: http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1 http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html (Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.) Best, Robert -- Robert Hirschfeld Hasso-Plattner-Institut [hidden email] www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa |
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A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/ Best, Robert On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Robert Hirschfeld wrote: > It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI. > > Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming" > > Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany > > Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00 > > Additional information: > http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm > http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1 > http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html > > (Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.) > > Best, > Robert > > -- > Robert Hirschfeld > Hasso-Plattner-Institut > [hidden email] > www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa |
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Hi Robert,
is it possible to put the media up on other than Real format? The Real players, both hd and normal quality, both crash for me on mac OS X 10.6.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Robert Hirschfeld <[hidden email]> wrote: A recording of Alan's talk is available online at -- best, Eliot |
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never mind. had to install the latest version and reinstall...
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Robert, -- best, Eliot |
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Soooo ... we can't listen to this with Squeak? That's a shame.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote: never mind. had to install the latest version and reinstall... -- Gary Dunn Honolulu |
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I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes with some kind of translation tool that's advertised to be able to output MPEG, maybe we can use that to save others the trouble of installing the Real client. If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced? This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I must admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to paraphrase, because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we were physicists, and we didn't understand what Newton did [slight dramatic pause] we should be shot." LOL!
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Casey Ransberger wrote:
> I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes with some > kind of translation tool that's advertised to be able to output MPEG, > maybe we can use that to save others the trouble of installing the > Real client. > > If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any > money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced? > > This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I must > admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to paraphrase, > because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we were physicists, > and we didn't understand what Newton did [slight dramatic pause] we > should be shot." > > LOL! I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format that lets me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part again! Cheers, Juan Vuletich |
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What can't be read does not exist!
Hilaire Le 22/07/2011 23:06, Robert Hirschfeld a écrit : > A recording of Alan's talk is available online at > > http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/ > > Best, > Robert > > On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Robert Hirschfeld wrote: > >> It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI. >> >> Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming" >> >> Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany >> >> Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00 >> >> Additional information: >> http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm >> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1 >> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html >> >> (Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.) >> >> Best, >> Robert >> >> -- >> Robert Hirschfeld >> Hasso-Plattner-Institut >> [hidden email] >> www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa > > > -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire |
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It will be uploaded as H.264 and in some Flash format as well. The portal has a slightly old server to run the conversion queue, it usually needs 2-3 days to create the Podcast (h.264) version.
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On 23 Jul 2011 04:47, Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]> wrote: Casey Ransberger wrote: > I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes with some > kind of translation tool that's advertised to be able to output MPEG, > maybe we can use that to save others the trouble of installing the > Real client. > > If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any > money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced? > > This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I must > admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to paraphrase, > because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we were physicists, > and we didn't understand what Newton did [slight dramatic pause] we > should be shot." > > LOL! I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format that lets me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part again! Cheers, Juan Vuletich |
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If you are on Linux this might help:
Cheers, Alex [1] https://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/downloads 2011/7/23 Hilaire Fernandes <[hidden email]> What can't be read does not exist! |
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Sure.
I remember, when RMS is recorded, he always requires the use of open format. Don't knwo if Hilaire Le 23/07/2011 10:00, Alexander Lazarević a écrit : > If you are on Linux this might help: > > 1. Go to [1] and download the top most RealPlayer 11 RPM package > 2. I guess on systems that support the RPM package format you just > have to install that package and find out how to start the > RealPlayer. (Skip to step 6) > 3. On Debian/Ubuntu you need to install the "alien" package doing > something like "sudo apt-get install alien" > 4. After that you can convert the RPM package into a DEB package with > "alien RealPlayer11GOLD.rpm" > 5. Install the resulting DEB package eg. "sudo dpkg -i > realplayer_11.0.2.2315-20101118_i386.deb" > 6. Launch RealPlayer (on Ubuntu do "/opt/real/RealPlayer/realplay") > 7. Select the menu "File>Open Location" > 8. Enter > "http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_hd.ram" > > At least that worked for me! :) > > Cheers, > Alex > > [1] https://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/downloads > > 2011/7/23 Hilaire Fernandes <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> > > What can't be read does not exist! > > Hilaire > > Le 22/07/2011 23:06, Robert Hirschfeld a écrit : > > A recording of Alan's talk is available online at > > > > http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/ > > > > Best, > > Robert > > > > On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:35 AM, Robert Hirschfeld wrote: > > > >> It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI. > >> > >> Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming" > >> > >> Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany > >> > >> Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00 > >> > >> Additional information: > >> http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm > >> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1 > >> > http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html > >> > >> (Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.) > >> > >> Best, > >> Robert > >> > >> -- > >> Robert Hirschfeld > >> Hasso-Plattner-Institut > >> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > >> www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa <http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa> > > > > > > > > > -- > Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire > > > > > > -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire |
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Hi Casey, Juan,
>> If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any >> money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced? JV> I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format that lets JV> me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part again! same for me as a non native speaker I'd really appreciate it! Cheers, Herbert |
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 00:56, Tim Felgentreff <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It will be uploaded as H.264 That would be good. I even tried Win7, and I can't get the Real Media files to play. |
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Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says "convert only works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull the actual video file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers that point at a stream rather than being the actual video data? I have a feeling that the reason I'm unable to do this is by design, but I'm not certain.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Casey Ransberger wrote:
> Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says > "convert only works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull > the actual video file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers that > point at a stream rather than being the actual video data? I have a > feeling that the reason I'm unable to do this is by design, but I'm > not certain. I believe it is "by design" of the real stream server and client. But if the server doesn't disable access from the web server, you can get them. The http urls are: http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm The smil file is in an attach I just sent to the FONC mail list, you can get it from there. Cheers, Juan Vuletich > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Juan Vuletich <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > Casey Ransberger wrote: > > I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes > with some kind of translation tool that's advertised to be > able to output MPEG, maybe we can use that to save others the > trouble of installing the Real client. > If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without > spending any money, would folks have interest in the artifact > produced? > > This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I > must admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to > paraphrase, because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we > were physicists, and we didn't understand what Newton did > [slight dramatic pause] we should be shot." > > LOL! > > > I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format > that lets me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part > again! > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > > > > > -- > Casey Ransberger > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3782 - Release Date: 07/22/11 > |
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If you're using windows, and you don't want to install RealPlayer, you can use VLC on the links below directly...
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
- Jon On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]> wrote:
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This worked for me and VLC works with it. Thanks Juan.
Yes, it would be nice to somehow sync the two videos. brad On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 18:27, Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]> wrote: > Leo Richard Comerford wrote: >> >> You can just download the individual items (lo and behold, RealPlayer >> allows you to download the videos if you open them individually), put >> them together in a folder with the SMIL file, and edit the SMIL to >> point to the local copies. (This was the subject of my email to Juan >> Vuletich.) >> >> Leo. >> > > Thanks Leo! For everybody else, the attach is the file Leo sent me. > > However I could not download the individual videos from Real Player for Mac. > The urls are: > rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm > rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm > > But I tried to get them via http, and succeeded. The urls are: > http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm > http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm > > Now I have the complete smil as a local files, and Real is happy to pause, > rewind, etc. > > It would be valuable to convert the videos to some other format, though. > What I'm not sure if there are better alternatives to Smil, to play both the > video of Alan and the video of the presentation together... > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [hidden email] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > |
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I know administration does understand much about open format, but the
use of Ogg/Theora will just make straightforward the watching of these videos worldwide, system independently. Hilaire Le 24/07/2011 17:56, Brad Fuller a écrit : > This worked for me and VLC works with it. Thanks Juan. > > Yes, it would be nice to somehow sync the two videos. > > brad > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 18:27, Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Leo Richard Comerford wrote: >>> >>> You can just download the individual items (lo and behold, RealPlayer >>> allows you to download the videos if you open them individually), put >>> them together in a folder with the SMIL file, and edit the SMIL to >>> point to the local copies. (This was the subject of my email to Juan >>> Vuletich.) >>> >>> Leo. >>> >> >> Thanks Leo! For everybody else, the attach is the file Leo sent me. >> >> However I could not download the individual videos from Real Player for Mac. >> The urls are: >> rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm >> rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm >> >> But I tried to get them via http, and succeeded. The urls are: >> http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm >> http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm >> >> Now I have the complete smil as a local files, and Real is happy to pause, >> rewind, etc. >> >> It would be valuable to convert the videos to some other format, though. >> What I'm not sure if there are better alternatives to Smil, to play both the >> video of Alan and the video of the presentation together... >> >> Cheers, >> Juan Vuletich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fonc mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >> >> > > -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire |
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Em 23-07-2011 22:32, Juan Vuletich escreveu:
> Casey Ransberger wrote: >> Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says >> "convert only works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull >> the actual video file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers >> that point at a stream rather than being the actual video data? I >> have a feeling that the reason I'm unable to do this is by design, >> but I'm not certain. > > I believe it is "by design" of the real stream server and client. But > if the server doesn't disable access from the web server, you can get > them. The http urls are: > http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm > > http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm > > The smil file is in an attach I just sent to the FONC mail list, you > can get it from there. mpeg (ntsc-dvd format) with: ffmpeg -i $FILE -target ntsc-dvd $OUTPUT_FILE So, I have both files in mpeg format. If someone have a suitable place, I can upload files so other people can use them. I'm not sure about copyrights and stuff like that... Best regards, Casimiro > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > >> >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Juan Vuletich <[hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: >> >> Casey Ransberger wrote: >> >> I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes >> with some kind of translation tool that's advertised to be >> able to output MPEG, maybe we can use that to save others the >> trouble of installing the Real client. >> If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without >> spending any money, would folks have interest in the artifact >> produced? >> >> This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I >> must admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to >> paraphrase, because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we >> were physicists, and we didn't understand what Newton did >> [slight dramatic pause] we should be shot." >> >> LOL! >> >> >> I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format >> that lets me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part >> again! >> >> Cheers, >> Juan Vuletich >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Casey Ransberger >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >> Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3782 - Release Date: 07/22/11 >> > > > |
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