[ANN] basic Morphic package for the KernelImage

Hi all,

here -  http://www.comtalk.net/Squeak/98 - you can download special
package for the KernelImage that includes basic Morphic without eToys.
Prepared image is included too (6.8 MB). This image has no
obsoleteClasses and Undeclared.

enjoy...

-- Pavel

Hi Pavel,

Just downloaded the image. Terrific work! I love it!

Thanks,
Juan Vuletich

Pavel Krivanek escribió:

On Nov 6, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:


Hey Pavel, thanks alot for this work :)

I was following instructions on the page you reference and I get a  
failure trying to load 'PackageInfo-al.6.mcz'; Message Not  
Understood: PackageOrganizer>>packageNamed:ifAbsent:

Any thoughts?

Brian

On Nov 6, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> here -  http://www.comtalk.net/Squeak/98 - you can download special
> package for the KernelImage that includes basic Morphic without eToys.
> Prepared image is included too (6.8 MB). This image has no
> obsoleteClasses and Undeclared.

For some reason, on a MacBook Pro, the prebuilt image only works with  
a unix VM - the Carbon VM never shows a window for it.

Avi

Avi Bryant wrote:
>> here -  http://www.comtalk.net/Squeak/98 - you can download special
>> package for the KernelImage that includes basic Morphic without eToys.
>> Prepared image is included too (6.8 MB). This image has no
>> obsoleteClasses and Undeclared.
>
> For some reason, on a MacBook Pro, the prebuilt image only works with a
> unix VM - the Carbon VM never shows a window for it.

The startup sequence of the image seems buggy. On Windows, the image
comes but doesn't display anything unless you do a "restore display".
And if John delayed the creation of the main window until the first time
one of the display update methods is called it may never show. Executing
the following manually will fix the problem:

   SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true.
   World install.
   Display forceToScreen.

Cheers,
   - Andreas

Squeak3.9g-7061-basicMorphic.image

well on a power pc mac too, halting a running test VM and doing

(gdb) call printAllStacks()

Process
241339196 >idleProcess
241333968 [] in >startUp
241334060 [] in BlockContext>newProcess


Process
241335876 >finalizationProcess
241335692 [] in >restartFinalizationProcess
241335784 [] in BlockContext>newProcess

Process
235713704 >timerInterruptWatcher
235714088 [] in >startTimerInterruptWatcher
235714180 [] in BlockContext>newProcess

Process
241332132 InputSensor>userInterruptWatcher
241331948 [] in InputSensor>installInterruptWatcher
241332040 [] in BlockContext>newProcess

Process
241360108 Delay>wait
241360384 [] in EventSensor>eventTickler
241360016 BlockContext>on:do:
241332624 EventSensor>eventTickler
241332348 [] in EventSensor>installEventTickler
241332532 [] in BlockContext>newProcess

Process
241333548 SystemDictionary>lowSpaceWatcher
241333640 [] in SystemDictionary>installLowSpaceWatcher
241333732 [] in BlockContext>newProcess

Process
241431704 Delay>wait
241431612 WorldState>interCyclePause:
241430784 WorldState>doOneCycleFor:
241430416 PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle
239831360 [] in >spawnNewProcess
239831544 [] in BlockContext>newProcess



I'll note the mac vm does not show the window until the first  
primitiveShowHostWindowRect is made...



On 6-Nov-06, at 4:22 PM, Avi Bryant wrote:

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Hi Pavel,

works fine here, module the "restore display" problem reported by others.

Thank you for the good work. It forced me to rewrite
>
> Squeak - "Pavel's" (Etoys + Morphic)
>         + "Juan's" Morphic
>   = (Squeak - Etoys)
>

:) There be choice :)

/Klaus

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:03:47 +0100, Pavel Krivanek  
<[hidden email]> wrote:

Pavel Krivanek puso en su mail :
You are the man !!
I don't get mail yesterday, unknown causes, so now I downloading

Edgar


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Pavel Krivanek puso en su mail :

First bug, when I try to get a single Change Sorter.
I wish do enhancements and fix for this image, as is near to my vision,
You could create a category on Mantis and all go there for later review ?

Edgar

Hi Edgar,

no, I've got no rights for this operation. But it would be nice to
have special category for it.

-- Pavel

On 11/7/06, Edgar J. De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Brian,

can you describe your procedure more closely? BTW., monticello package
includes PackageInfo too, it's a mistake that should be removed in
next version.

-- Pavel

On 11/7/06, Brian Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you Andreas,

do you know what class does similar behavior in the official image?
This should probably be part of startUp code of some class.

Whole code of Morphic initialization should be reviewed by somebody
more skilled in this area. I have to create some temporary projects
etc. and it's very ugly.

-- Pavel


On 11/7/06, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]> wrote:

> First bug, when I try to get a single Change Sorter.
> I wish do enhancements and fix for this image, as is near to my vision,
> You could create a category on Mantis and all go there for later review ?

For some reason, was needed do ChangeSorter initializeChangeSetCategories

ChangesOrganizer initialize seems not work.

Edgar


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Hi Pavel,

is there a way to determine that the running .image is KernelImage or not?  
If not already, what would be a reliable question (Smalltalk at:  
#Bootstrap ifAbsent: nil) for example.

This is perhaps useful for conditioning package sources when installing  
into KernelImage.

/Klaus

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:55:04 +0100, I wrote:

Hi Klaus,

On 11/7/06, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
>
> is there a way to determine that the running .image is KernelImage or not?

no, it isn't

> If not already, what would be a reliable question (Smalltalk at:
> #Bootstrap ifAbsent: nil) for example.

I think that it will be better to check some eToys class, for example Viewer.

Klaus D. Witzel puso en su mail :

> Hi Pavel,
>
> is there a way to determine that the running .image is KernelImage or not?
> If not already, what would be a reliable question (Smalltalk at:
> #Bootstrap ifAbsent: nil) for example.
>
> This is perhaps useful for conditioning package sources when installing
> into KernelImage.


In Pavel's
SystemVersion current version 'Squeak3.9gamma'

In SqueakLight I do

SystemVersion newVersion: 'SqueakLight'
SystemVersion current resetHighestUpdate.
SystemVersion current highestUpdate: 390

In my .sar compatibles between 3.9 and SqueakLight I do for example:

Smalltalk version  = 'SqueakLight' ifTrue:[ self fileInMemberNamed:
'MixedCurves.2.cs'.
    self fileInMemberNamed: 'MinimalSound.2.cs'].


So we need an agreement on naming the version and set the update number
I propose MinimalSqueak and 7200 for do room on "normal" Squeak 3.9

Edgar


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Hi Edgar,

yes, setting SystemVersion newVersion: '<your image official name>' is a  
good idea. So we can also see, in SqueakDebug.log, what's the .image  
causing bugs ;-)

/Klaus

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:20:58 +0100, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:

I can add a category to the Squeak Packages project on bugs.impara.de
for you.  What should it be called?  I'm not clear on whether you want
one for all KernelImage issues or one specifically for the basic Morphic
package (and by the way if it's for that, we really need another name or
this is going to quickly get confusing).

Ken

On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 10:01 +0100, Pavel Krivanek wrote:

On 7-Nov-06, at 2:11 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:

Perhaps set the image version ?

tim
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Ken Causey puso en su mail :

> I can add a category to the Squeak Packages project on bugs.impara.de
> for you.  What should it be called?  I'm not clear on whether you want
> one for all KernelImage issues or one specifically for the basic Morphic
> package (and by the way if it's for that, we really need another name or
> this is going to quickly get confusing).

Thanks , and I vote for MinimalSqueak or MinimalMorphicSqueak.
Also , as I said changing the version info (glad I think same as Tim ) and
set the  number scheme to 7200 (see previous mail).
I try to see on previous experiments the problem in mac VM as was the same
reported to Pavel and John before (and was solved).
For now I using the Unix VM.

Later

Edgar


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