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Etoys on Chromebook?

Michael McKelvey
Hello Squeakland community,

I'm hoping someone out there can give me a definitive answer on trying to use Etoys on a Chromebook.  My initial assumption and experience has been that it is not going to work, at least at this time, but I am trying to confirm that one way or the other. Etoys-to-Go hasn't gotten me anywhere -- anything I try to run just tells me that the file type is not supported.  It seems the most viable solution would be a Google Chrome extension... is that a possibility or completely outside the scope of the Etoys project?

Thanks in advance for any guidance!

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Re: Etoys on Chromebook?

Kazuhiro ABE
Hello Michael

I remember that Yoshiki Ohshima wrote a VM for Google Native Client.
http://forum.world.st/Squeak-VM-port-to-Google-Native-Client-td3494618.html
I'm not sure it directly runs on Chromebook or not. However I guess it
might be a starting point for it.

Regards,
Kazuhiro Abe

2013/2/6 Michael McKelvey <[hidden email]>:

> Hello Squeakland community,
>
> I'm hoping someone out there can give me a definitive answer on trying to
> use Etoys on a Chromebook.  My initial assumption and experience has been
> that it is not going to work, at least at this time, but I am trying to
> confirm that one way or the other. Etoys-to-Go hasn't gotten me anywhere --
> anything I try to run just tells me that the file type is not supported.  It
> seems the most viable solution would be a Google Chrome extension... is that
> a possibility or completely outside the scope of the Etoys project?
>
> Thanks in advance for any guidance!
>
>      --Michael--
> ============== Michael McKelvey ==============
> Office for Mathematics, Science, and Technology Education
> University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana
> MSTE website: http://mste.illinois.edu
> {Office #: 217-244-7148} {Cell #: 217-621-5783}
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> Current diversion: Scott Pilgrim (http://scottpilgrimthemovie.com/)
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Re: Etoys on Chromebook?

dcorking
>>  but I am trying to
>> confirm that one way or the other. Etoys-to-Go hasn't gotten me anywhere --
>> anything I try to run just tells me that the file type is not supported.
>> It
>> seems the most viable solution would be a Google Chrome extension...

You might be right.

I took a quick look at the Chrome developer docs this morning, and
there seem to be all kinds of restrictions preventing someone
packaging a 100 MB application to run on the Chromebook.

Some kind of Javascript wrapper and VM as Kazuhiro Abe suggested might
be the only way - apart from jailbreaking your device.

While it is not in scope at the moment - open platforms such as
Windows Mac and Linux, including the OLPC, are the main targets - I
wouldn't say it as impossible.

A lot of the underlying infrastructure has already been ported to
Javascript by Jens Moenig and Brian Harvey's SNAP! project at
Berkeley, so with the right volunteers or funding, an 'Etoys-lite' for
the web might not be very far away. I haven't run SNAP! myself lately,
so I can only guess that the full multimedia potential of Etoys, or
compatibility with existing materials, might be a lot further away.

Anyway, I am just another Squeaker - not a spokesperson for anyone
else. Have fun! David.
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Re: Etoys on Chromebook?

K K Subbu
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On Wednesday 06 February 2013 12:32 AM, Michael McKelvey wrote:
> Hello Squeakland community,
>
> I'm hoping someone out there can give me a definitive answer on trying
> to use Etoys on a Chromebook.

Etoys on Chromebook would be an "impedance mismatch". Etoys is designed
to run mostly standalone (big image on local disk) while Chromebook is
designed to work like an Internet terminal. While it may be possible to
squeeze Etoys into this model with some brain surgery, I don't see it as
viable in the long term compared something like Lively Kernel on Chromebook.

Regards .. Subbu
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