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Hi, all! May I add more spaces to Context >> #printOn:? ... and a "#" in front of the selector ...  Best, Marcel |
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+1, provides a much better readability. Maybe we could switch to a PluggableMultiColumnListSpec here some day? :)
Best, Christoph Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. September 2019 13:36:16 An: Alan Grimes via Squeak-dev Betreff: [squeak-dev] Give debuggers more space ... :-)
Hi, all!
May I add more spaces to Context >> #printOn:? ... and a "#" in front of the selector ...
 Best,
Marcel
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... even with support for filtering,
if Christian would provide his PluggableMultiColumnListMorph implementation
:)
@Tobias: TextAlignments in MultiColumns are not yet supported, are they? Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Tobias Pape <[hidden email]>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. September 2019 14:14:51 An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Give debuggers more space ... :-) > On 26.09.2019, at 14:11, Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote: > > +1, provides a much better readability. Maybe we could switch to a PluggableMultiColumnListSpec here some day? :) > and make the left column flush-right ... > > > Best, > Christoph > Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. September 2019 13:36:16 > An: Alan Grimes via Squeak-dev > Betreff: [squeak-dev] Give debuggers more space ... :-) > > Hi, all! > > May I add more spaces to Context >> #printOn:? ... and a "#" in front of the selector ... > > > > Best, > Marcel
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Hmm... this does not work well for long class names :-) Here is another version that looks more like our message sets:  Best, Marcel
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seems much more readable. bye nicola On 9/26/19 4:36 AM, Marcel Taeumel
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[_]— i want to make a multi Window Debugger which really reduces the need to mouse or click or fiddle diddle faddle stepping . Smalltalk stepping used to be my favorite hobby . <Alt>+<Tab> navigation or something keyboard only Vim where it remembers the clicks you clicked to Inspect a couple 3 things and plays them back apon any revisiting => reopening and puts the desired printOn:s into a popUp clustering which disappears or reappears apon leaving returning each click setup inspection selecting -> showing its printOn: just by keeping hitting the <Spacebar> . maybe the separate Windows take it in turns to coming forwards apon <Spacebar> . mostly you just keep hitting <Spacebar> or <F10> <F11> something . And the source code selection always always scrolls into dead center of the pain oh the pane centered top to bottom of the monitor screen without me fiddling with these tiny Steve Jobs scroll bars which never should have replaced the Adele et all ST-80 scroll flaps and that old GUI is coming back it’s just called WUP or WUPS or WPU or UPWoo or something which has hiding scroll bars byut they’re ((->tiny<-)) pfff so it takes some stressing to home in on the minute buggers . give me the old interface back again but with rich text . fancy fonts etc . oh yeah o y worse is better worse is better worse is definitely better and the GUI should look like things we are familiar with so our heads don’t explode speaking no ill of the dead but he couldn’t have been more wrong no like desk drawers and table tops and 3D rollodecks magic cap . but the 80 GUI never did any of that because why because why because it was 39 years before it’s time that’s why Adele whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hooooo On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 20:17 Nicola <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Note that #spaceFillWeight would work, too:  Best, Marcel
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Hi Marcel, I do like the readability of this, but how is list filtering affected? I realized I almost always start my filter on the stack pane with ">" to filter on method names only (and not class names). It looks like that won't be possible anymore. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:03 AM Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
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It shouldn't be a big effort to introduce a middle column with constant ">>"s in each line, should it? :) And then we could modify the filtering to match beyond adjacent columns. Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Chris Muller <[hidden email]>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2019 22:56:00 An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Give debuggers more space ... :-) Hi Marcel, I do like the readability of this, but how is list filtering affected? I realized I almost always start my filter on the stack pane with ">" to filter on method names only (and not class names). It looks like that won't be possible
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:03 AM Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hmm.. First, we would have to extend the respective ToolBuilderSpecs to let models configure such columns. #hAlignment, #columnSpecs, ...maybe similar to PluggableTreeSpecs... Data provision (col-first or row-first) then is quite simple.
Yes, one could add more columns with any characters. List filtering looks in all columns (OR combination). First column front match is a front match.
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:14 AM +0200, "Thiede, Christoph"
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How will it look with long class names (or two of them)? Am Mi., 16. Okt. 2019 um 12:57 Uhr schrieb Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]>: |
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Hi, all. Please find attached a change set to play around with this layout idea in the debugger. Needs current Trunk (#19138).  Best, Marcel
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debugger-columns.2.cs (7K)
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> How will it look with long class names (or two of them)?  Okay-ish.... Not sure about that "[ ] in" ... it might deserve an extra column in the middle:  Best, Marcel
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