On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 5:01 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote: when I type 3 + 4 , it seems like it takes + as part of the pillar syntax and uses latex syntax and when it tries to generate the pdf it fails so I am forced now to type it as raw text like this : {{{3+4}}} you can use eith ==3 + 4== for fixed-width font or 3 \+ 4 for normal text -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill |
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Thanks Damien and Yuriy On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
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ok people I think I made pillar angry :D I dont why, maybe I said something I should not have said, maybe I pushed her too much , maybe I smell too bad but since yesterday she compiles but refuses to cooperate with me.
In detail each time I try to use pillar syntax lets say "!! Finding classes" instead of seeing the syntax and compile to something like "1.2 Finding classes" it compiles it as it is "!! Finding classes" , it does the same thing with other pillar syntax too.
I tried to redownload the repo , and reinstall pier and recompile from scratch again it does the same things. You can replicate this by cloning the UpdatedPharoByExample github repo and just go to PharoTour.pier and add "!! Something something" and compile. The problem is evident in both the pdfs and hmtl outputs.
Please help me make pillar friendly again, tell her I apologize and I lover her very much :) On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:09 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Please help me make pillar friendly again, tell her I apologize and I lover > her very much :) did you find a solution or do you still need help? Please send a private email -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill |
no I did not, but I gave up cause copying from latex files is 10 times the work. I dont mind continue contributing but I have to first fix this bug , and second find an easier way to do this . If I could compile the tex file to pure text would make life easier. But first I need to solve this problem with pillar. Will message privately.
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In section 1.9 page 18 there is this text "At other times you may have a good idea that a method exists, but will have no idea what it might be called. The method finder can still help! For example, suppose that you would like to find a method that turns a string into upper case, for example, it would translate 'eureka' into 'EUREKA'.
The method finder will suggest a method that does what you want.8 An asterisk at the beginning of a line in the right pane of the method finder indicates that this method is the one that was actually used to obtain the requested result. So, the asterisk in front of String asUppercase lets us know that the method asUppercase defined on the class String was executed and returned the result we wanted. The methods that do not have an asterisk are just the other methods that have the same name as the ones that returned the expected result. So Character»asUppercase was not executed on our example, because 'eureka' is not a Character object. You can also use the method finder for methods with arguments; for example, if you are looking for a method that will find the greatest common factor of two integers, you might try 25. 35. 5 as an example. You can also give the method finder multiple examples to narrow the search space; the help text in the bottom pane explains how. " I tried " 'eureka' . 'EUREKA '" and the other suggestion it does not seem to work , should I remove this section ? On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:17 AM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
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hey guys I just finished the Pharo Tour Chapter. I will give it another read the next few days , but so far it looks ok. The pdf renders without any issues. So I think I have figured out the process of copying from PDFs, I think I understand now what PDF breaks. Looking into the tex file definetly helps out to find exactly what went wrong. I also think I have started understanding the latex syntax.
It looks like there some unicodes the tex allows to, but none the less I decided to remove them all and replace them with regular ascii characters to make sure it does not create any problem at all. Though those unicodes did not brake the PDF creation.
So from now on the plan is to slow down a bit, I will do 1 page per day with the goal of 1 Chapter per month. It should not take me more than 10 minutes per page (if pdf copy paste behaves I could do this even in 1 mimute) so I think its ideal for me. I will continue contributing since its so easy and hopefully finish the book in a year or so if I don't give up in the mean time.
Make sure you give a read and report back any problems. Also please take a look at the problem I reported earlier on, documenting things that the viewer cannot verify is not good. The pdf of the book can be found here -> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/UpdatedPharoByExample/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/PharoByExample.pdf
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:48 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
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kilon alios wrote:
It works for me... * World > Tools > Finder * Type... 'eureka' . 'EUREKA' * Change [Selectors] to [Examples] |
oh yes I completely missed the "examples" option. Great ! One thing less to worry about , thanks Ben :) On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Finished Chapter 3 , no errors or warnings reporting with pdf generation. I am moving to Chapter 2 now, which for some strange reason I skipped. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:19 AM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
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So I have finished the second chapter , but, there is a sub section about Squeaksource which I don't think many people use anymore , will you keep this as it is ? Cause I was thinking maybe deleting that part and talk instead about Smalltalkhub. For the time being I have ported Squeaksource part as it is. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:44 AM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Thanks kilon. Thats an important effort. I would vote for changing it to SmalltalkHub. The Squeaksource home page says its disabled creation of new projects. cheers -ben
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Nice to see some progress on that front.
I checked a bit and just a remark: pay attention to the coherent of word uppercasing in titles. A quick tour of Pharo vs. A Quick tout of Pharo. In PBE we do not use uppercase in title except for names. I read fast the QuickTour and fix them all. Also use '' '' for italic. Because this is nice to have stress in the text. Keep pushing. Stef On 1/6/14 17:54, kilon alios wrote:
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I also fixed
kjhjkhjh . -> lkjlkjklj. lkjkl , kkklj -> lkjkl, kkklj there is no space because diacritics in english so Pharo ? -> Pharo? And I suggest to add some screen shots in the tour on pharo. I converted also extra bold into == == because code should be in == == I think that we should have a special tag for the "exercises" right now I put a bullet. Stef |
Thanks Stef , I will try to take account all you mentioned from now on to anything I port. I used spaces because it makes it much easier for me to read. I have not added more screenshots because you told me you wanted less. Obviously less screenshots is less work for me. I have tried to add all the basic ones like system browser, inspector etc.
In any case I like to note here that my work need a lot of proof reading. I am fully aware there will be problems with my work and I don't read line by line everything I port because that would be extremely time consuming and would slow me down severely. But I do always make sure the pdf renders properly and the text looks readable.
So please if you find any problems with the pdf/html , either fix it yourselves or if you dont have access to github / dont have the time to fix it , please report here and I will fix it for you.
Whats the verdict with the Squeksource section ? Do I covert it to a SmalltalkHub section or do I continue to chapter 4 ? "Thanks kilon. Thats an important effort. I would vote for changing it to SmalltalkHub. The Squeaksource home page says its disabled creation of new projects. "
well last time I checked the old Squeaksource was dead, there was something like Squeaksource3 that can be found here that allows the creation of new projects and I think its what squeakers use for their projects
but I have not used it since I left Squeak for Pharo a year ago. I dont have an issues making a similar size section about Smalltalkhub , I agree its the most sensible solution but I would like to check it our first with Stef and the rest of the team because I know its extra work for people doing the translations and such.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:13 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: I also fixed |
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I did a full pass on Syntax in nutshell and I fixed tons of glitches.
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I fixed that!
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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Whats the verdict with the Squeksource section ? Do I covert it to a > SmalltalkHub section or do I continue to chapter 4 ? I think you can keep the section about squeaksource and replace it with ss3 and smalltalkhub instead. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill |
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:09:21PM +0200, Damien Cassou wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Whats the verdict with the Squeksource section ? Do I covert it to a > > SmalltalkHub section or do I continue to chapter 4 ? > > > I think you can keep the section about squeaksource and replace it > with ss3 and smalltalkhub instead. > That sounds right. Squeaksource.com remains operational, but readers should be guided to use smalltalkhub and ss3 for new work. Dave |
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ok will do that and you can take it from there and edit it later on if you want to add additional info. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:
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