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OLPC mass production started

Bert Freudenberg
Picture of the first "XO-1" children's laptop coming down Quanta's  
production line:

        http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:StartOfMP.jpg

And every single machine comes with Squeak/Etoys pre-installed - a  
big thanks to everyone involved directly and indirectly!

- Bert -



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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started

Jim Gettys-3
On behalf of OLPC and children everywhere, I'd like to take this
opportunity to "Thank You All!".
                           - Jim Gettys


On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:13 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

> Picture of the first "XO-1" children's laptop coming down Quanta's  
> production line:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:StartOfMP.jpg
>
> And every single machine comes with Squeak/Etoys pre-installed - a  
> big thanks to everyone involved directly and indirectly!
>
> - Bert -
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Etoys mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
--
Jim Gettys
One Laptop Per Child



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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started

Alan Kay-4
Yay!

Cheers to all!

Alan

------------

At 05:24 AM 11/6/2007, Jim Gettys wrote:

>On behalf of OLPC and children everywhere, I'd like to take this
>opportunity to "Thank You All!".
>                            - Jim Gettys
>
>
>On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:13 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > Picture of the first "XO-1" children's laptop coming down Quanta's
> > production line:
> >
> >       http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:StartOfMP.jpg
> >
> > And every single machine comes with Squeak/Etoys pre-installed - a
> > big thanks to everyone involved directly and indirectly!
> >
> > - Bert -
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Etoys mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
>--
>Jim Gettys
>One Laptop Per Child
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Etoys mailing list
>[hidden email]
>http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys


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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started

Shankar Pokharel
Cheers!!!!

On Nov 6, 2007 8:18 PM, Alan Kay <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yay!

Cheers to all!

Alan

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At 05:24 AM 11/6/2007, Jim Gettys wrote:
>On behalf of OLPC and children everywhere, I'd like to take this
>opportunity to "Thank You All!".

>                            - Jim Gettys
>
>
>On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:13 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > Picture of the first "XO-1" children's laptop coming down Quanta's
> > production line:
> >
> >       http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:StartOfMP.jpg
> >
> > And every single machine comes with Squeak/Etoys pre-installed - a
> > big thanks to everyone involved directly and indirectly!
> >
> > - Bert -
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Etoys mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
>--
>Jim Gettys
>One Laptop Per Child
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Etoys mailing list
>[hidden email]
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys

_______________________________________________
Etoys mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys



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RE: OLPC mass production started

Sebastian Sastre-2
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Great news Bert. This is historical. I'm so glad to see this happening,

        thanks for the news,

Sebastian Sastre

 

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] En
> nombre de Bert Freudenberg
> Enviado el: Martes, 06 de Noviembre de 2007 11:14
> Para: etoys
> CC: Squeakland list; The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Asunto: OLPC mass production started
>
> Picture of the first "XO-1" children's laptop coming down
> Quanta's production line:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:StartOfMP.jpg
>
> And every single machine comes with Squeak/Etoys
> pre-installed - a big thanks to everyone involved directly
> and indirectly!
>
> - Bert -
>
>
>


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A Hero for One Laptop Per Child (RE: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started)

SmallSqueak
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Hi Alan,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Kay
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:33 AM
> To: [hidden email]; Bert Freudenberg
> Cc: Squeakland list; etoys; The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started
>
> Yay!
>
> Cheers to all!
>
> Alan
>

I searched for "One Laptop Per Child Hero" and expected to see your name or
Negroponte.

To my dismay, Google returned a complete stranger to me, Masi Oka.

Do you know why OLPC appointed Masi Oka, an actor and special effects
specialist, as its Global Ambassador to sell its 400US$ "Give One Get One"
computers.

Is the campaign "Give One Get One" the hero's idea?

Cheers,

PhiHo.


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Re: A Hero for One Laptop Per Child (RE: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started)

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
  PhiHo,

  The squeak-dev mailing list traditionally has very high tolerance
for posts that are not trying to communicate with other members, but
squeakland and etoys are not necessarily like that.  Please consider a
few minutes before you post.

> Do you know why OLPC appointed Masi Oka, an actor and special effects
> specialist, as its Global Ambassador to sell its 400US$ "Give One Get One"
> computers.

  Well, because he is well-known among TV-watching people?  BTW, you
might want to read the weekly update of OLPC:

http://laptop.media.mit.edu/laptopnews.nsf/latest/news?opendocument=

> Is the campaign "Give One Get One" the hero's idea?

  No.

  And, please don't waste other people's time with such non-sense.

-- Yoshiki

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[OT] RE: A Hero for One Laptop Per Child (RE: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started)

SmallSqueak
Yoshiki,

>
> The squeak-dev mailing list traditionally has very high tolerance
> for posts that are not trying to communicate with other members,

Communication is not an easy thing.

It doesn't matter how loud you are yelling into your walkie-talkie,
if the person at the other end doesn't turn on his handset, he won't
hear a thing you said.

Communication is a two-way process.
Communication also requires some compatibility in perception.

Would the OLPC Global Ambassador uses his mother tongue to market
the $399.99 "Give One Get One" computers in North America?
He might use (universal) body language or pictures, though.

Communication would be greatly hindered by prejudice.

As a Smalltalker, when you do not understand a message, just simply
say that you do not understand instead of judging the other not
communicating.

Maybe he is trying to send a message with good intention but
you are apparently not capable of understanding it.


> but squeakland and etoys are not necessarily like that.  
> Please consider a few minutes before you post.
>

Actually after I press "Reply all", I did remove a couple of recipients
from Alan's original list. I thought that Squeakland and etoys list might
benefit from Alan's response. I am not so sure about your response.

> > Do you know why OLPC appointed Masi Oka, an actor and special effects
> > specialist, as its Global Ambassador to sell its 400US$ "Give One Get
> One"
> > computers.
>
>   Well, because he is well-known among TV-watching people?  
>


Is this what you know or your guess (with the question mark)


> BTW, you might want to read the weekly update of OLPC:
>
> http://laptop.media.mit.edu/laptopnews.nsf/latest/news?opendocument=
>

Thanks for the link.

I watched that "Give One Get One" commercial on youtube.

The announcer looks quite handsome.

At the end, I don't quite understand what is he trying to communicate
with the closing phrase "One Laptop At A Time".

For this campaign "Give One Get One", shouldn't it be "Two Lap Top
At A Time" because "One For A Child in the developing country" and
"One For A Child in your land".

Both of them would get the benefits that he's been touting before that, not?
 
Did he try to say that out of the 2 laptops that one is paying for, only
the one goes to the developing country would bring the child what he is
advertising. The laptop goes to the child in North America wouldn't make a
difference.

> > Is the campaign "Give One Get One" the hero's idea?
>
>   No.
>
>   And, please don't waste other people's time with such non-sense.
>

If the Global Ambassador is responsible for marketing these $399.99
"Give One Get One" computers then it makes perfect sense for him to
come up with any strategy that he can think of.

Of course it must be approved but it's still his idea.

On the other hand if he got his job not because of his talents in
marketing but just because he is an actor with skills in special effects
then it is really non-sense. In Nicholas Negroponte's own words
(December 2006):

http://www.olpctalks.com/nicholas_negroponte/negroponte_netevents.html

<QUOTE>
Now, one thing you should realize is that there are about 250 people full time
on this project, not counting the Linux community. The Linux community I
estimate as about 2,000 people, but that's a very funny number, so you should
almost ignore that. But, of the 250 people who are working on it, if you want to
think of a sales and marketing department, which is kind of an odd concept for a
non-profit, but you're looking at it. Okay. I do that all alone. It's not a gang
of 50 people that go out and explore markets and sell. This is not that kind of
project. It's really very, very different. We don't sell laptops.
</QUOTE>

Now he is no longer alone:

http://laptop.media.mit.edu/laptopnews.nsf/latest/news?opendocument=

<QUOTE>

Masi has joined OLPC as our media spokesperson, however, an ill-timed
writers' strike precludes Nicholas and Masi doing some of the
talk-show appearances that had been envisioned.

</QUOTE>

Is he too busy with other task or is Masi more qualified
to handle sales and marketing for OLPC?

What's really the role of the Global Ambassador?
Is "media spokesperson" a synonym for "Global Ambassador"?
What kind of qualification is needed?
Why now suddenly OLPC needs such a role?

I have always thought that OLPC would receive requests from
the developing countries (no marketing required) and the only
"sales" job is to set a quota for each country and the manufacturer
would ship directly to the those countries.

To be honest, I am really confused.

Hence the posting following up Alan's posting in the hope
that he can shed more lights on it.
 
> -- Yoshiki
>

PhiHo.

P.S:

Dear Lists,

I apologize for not putting the tag [OT] so that those of you
don't care about OLPC can skip it.

PhiHo



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Re: A Hero for One Laptop Per Child (RE: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started)

Alan Kay-4
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I would be very disappointed, even appalled, to see my name as a hero
here. The notion of a "Hero" seems to be partly built into human
nervous systems and is a favorite trope in stories. This idea
seriously distorted and masked how Xerox PARC actually worked, for example.

OLPC has been making progress because quite a few talented people
decided to take responsibility for different needs of the project. I
am very proud of the Viewpoints researchers who really got behind
this because they believed in it.

So there are a lot of heros, if that is the word. I think of it more
as "there are a lot of enlightened people" and it bodes well for
humanity when they decide to take action.

Cheers.

Alan


At 07:42 PM 11/10/2007, SmallSqueak wrote:

>Hi Alan,
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
> > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Kay
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:33 AM
> > To: [hidden email]; Bert Freudenberg
> > Cc: Squeakland list; etoys; The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > Subject: Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started
> >
> > Yay!
> >
> > Cheers to all!
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
>I searched for "One Laptop Per Child Hero" and expected to see your name or
>Negroponte.
>
>To my dismay, Google returned a complete stranger to me, Masi Oka.
>
>Do you know why OLPC appointed Masi Oka, an actor and special effects
>specialist, as its Global Ambassador to sell its 400US$ "Give One Get One"
>computers.
>
>Is the campaign "Give One Get One" the hero's idea?
>
>Cheers,
>
>PhiHo.


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Re: [Etoys] [OT] RE: A Hero for One Laptop Per Child (RE: OLPC mass production started)

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
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  PhiHo,

> On the other hand if he got his job not because of his talents in
> marketing but just because he is an actor with skills in special effects
> then it is really non-sense

  As far as I know, it is not a job.  Making PSA usually means that it
is done at no charge.

  At the holiday season, people, even including talent agencies, feel
to do some generous activity, such as helping OLPC.

  The G1G1 program did change the landscape.  Some stuff Nicholas said
last year don't apply to the situation now.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/23/business/laptop24.php

-- Yoshiki

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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started

Nevin Pratt
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I want some of these machines.

Some for my own kids, and some to donate to their school.

How do I get some?

Nevin


> Yay!
>
> Cheers to all!
>
> Alan
>
> ------------
>
> At 05:24 AM 11/6/2007, Jim Gettys wrote:
>> On behalf of OLPC and children everywhere, I'd like to take this
>> opportunity to "Thank You All!".
>>                            - Jim Gettys
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:13 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> > Picture of the first "XO-1" children's laptop coming down Quanta's
>> > production line:
>> >
>> >       http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:StartOfMP.jpg
>> >
>> > And every single machine comes with Squeak/Etoys pre-installed - a
>> > big thanks to everyone involved directly and indirectly!
>> >
>> > - Bert -
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Etoys mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
>> --
>> Jim Gettys
>> One Laptop Per Child
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Etoys mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
>
>


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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
  Nevin,

> I want some of these machines.
>
> Some for my own kids, and some to donate to their school.
>
> How do I get some?

  Sort of a strange question at this point from a tech-savvy,
Internet-accessible person like you...

  Are you aware of, or talking about, the Give One Get One program?
Last time I heard, the donated half go to Uruguay, and you cannot
donate to your local school (perhaps unless you are already in
Uruguay.)

http://www.xogiving.org/

  There are some other ways to get "some", such as Give Many:

http://laptopfoundation.org/participate/givemany.shtml

or become a developer:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_program

-- Yoshiki

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Nevin Pratt
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
  Nevin,

  
I want some of these machines.

Some for my own kids, and some to donate to their school.

How do I get some?
    

  Sort of a strange question at this point from a tech-savvy,
Internet-accessible person like you...

  Are you aware of, or talking about, the Give One Get One program?
Last time I heard, the donated half go to Uruguay, and you cannot
donate to your local school (perhaps unless you are already in
Uruguay.)

http://www.xogiving.org/

  There are some other ways to get "some", such as Give Many:

http://laptopfoundation.org/participate/givemany.shtml

or become a developer:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_program

-- Yoshiki

  

What age children is the OLPC geared for?

Nevin



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Nevin Pratt
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>
>   Are you aware of, or talking about, the Give One Get One program?
> Last time I heard, the donated half go to Uruguay, and you cannot
> donate to your local school (perhaps unless you are already in
> Uruguay.)
>
> http://www.xogiving.org/
>
>  

Anyone know if participation in the "Give One Get One" program is tax
deductible (even if only by half)?

Nevin


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Yoshiki Ohshima-2
> Anyone know if participation in the "Give One Get One" program is tax
> deductible (even if only by half)?

  Go to:

http://www.xogiving.org/faq.html

and search the word "tax".

-- Yoshiki

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Yoshiki Ohshima-2
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> What age children is the OLPC geared for?

  The aim is at elementary-school-age children, and also
secondary-school-age children.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Our_market#Child_is_a_nebulous_term.3B_what_is_the_exact_age_range_you_are_targeting.3F

  However, it has yet to be tested that the software we have actually
made or we are making (not only Etoys but alsot everything else) is
really suitable to all of these age group of children.  It seems to me
that different bits of software has different focus but they are not
coherently organized.

-- Yoshiki

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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started

Nevin Pratt
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  There are some other ways to get "some", such as Give Many:

http://laptopfoundation.org/participate/givemany.shtml

  

I think the following (from the link above) looks interesting:

*******

Give 100+

$200 per laptop

• Donor designates where 60% of laptops are sent;
• OLPC sends 40% of the laptops to children in a country of our designation.
***********

This means that for $20,000, I could designate where 60 machines are to be shipped.  That way I could allocate some to my kids, and the balance to their school.

My question: if I did this, when could I expect delivery of the 60 machines?  Best guess would be wonderful.

Nevin



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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started

Bert Freudenberg

On Nov 12, 2007, at 8:42 , Nevin Pratt wrote:

>
>> There are some other ways to get "some", such as Give Many: http://
>> laptopfoundation.org/participate/givemany.shtml
>
> I think the following (from the link above) looks interesting:
>
> *******
> Give 100+
> $200 per laptop
>
> • Donor designates where 60% of laptops are sent;
> • OLPC sends 40% of the laptops to children in a country of our  
> designation.
> ***********
>
> This means that for $20,000, I could designate where 60 machines  
> are to be shipped.  That way I could allocate some to my kids, and  
> the balance to their school.
>
> My question: if I did this, when could I expect delivery of the 60  
> machines?  Best guess would be wonderful.

Best guess? Some time next year. Contact OLPC for a more accurate guess.

- Bert -



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Cees De Groot
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A colleague of mine is trying to order one (err... a pair ;-)), but it
seems that the Give One, Get One program is only geared towards
US&Canada?

Dying to get my hands on one...

On Nov 12, 2007 6:15 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:

>   Nevin,
>
> > I want some of these machines.
> >
> > Some for my own kids, and some to donate to their school.
> >
> > How do I get some?
>
>   Sort of a strange question at this point from a tech-savvy,
> Internet-accessible person like you...
>
>   Are you aware of, or talking about, the Give One Get One program?
> Last time I heard, the donated half go to Uruguay, and you cannot
> donate to your local school (perhaps unless you are already in
> Uruguay.)
>
> http://www.xogiving.org/
>
>   There are some other ways to get "some", such as Give Many:
>
> http://laptopfoundation.org/participate/givemany.shtml
>
> or become a developer:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_program
>
> -- Yoshiki
>
>



--
"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a
universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom. " -
Death, in "The Hogfather"

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Nevin Pratt
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Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Anyone know if participation in the "Give One Get One" program is tax 
deductible (even if only by half)?
    

  Go to:

http://www.xogiving.org/faq.html

and search the word "tax".

-- Yoshiki

  


I just ordered 12 of them (on the buy one give one program).  They are planned for my kids, as well as Christmas presents for some other kids (relatives).  My kid's school will have to wait.  :-)

Nevin


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