Re: Cannot Initialize Opengl

> Thanks Justin,
>
>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't  
> read your mail.
>
> Josh
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
>
>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.  
>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.  
>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is  
>> a short term fix.
>

> Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If not, we
> might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
>
> Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a working
> app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer() in
>
> http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
> display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
>
> I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux anymore.
>
> - Bert -
>
> On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
>
>> Thanks Justin,
>>
>>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
>> read your mail.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
>>
>>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.
>>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
>>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.
>>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is
>>> a short term fix.
>>
>
>

> Bert,
>
>    This is happening on several recent distros (including Fedora Core 5,6
> atd Ubuntu 6.10), and in all cases, other OpenGL apps run fine and, as
> far as I can tell, there in no references any composite enabled in
> their xorg.conf files.  Perhaps we need to proactively disable
> something with an OPTION statement in the videocard device section?
>
>    This problem is preventing the SDK from working on the stock
> installations (+nvidia binary and otherwise working OpenGL) of several
> mainline Linux distributions.
>
>        -- Ed
>
>       --
>
> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If not, we
> > might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
> >
> > Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a working
> > app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer() in
> >
> > http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
> > display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
> >
> > I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux anymore.
> >
> > - Bert -
> >
> > On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Justin,
> >>
> >>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
> >> read your mail.
> >>
> >> Josh
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> >>
> >>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.
> >>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
> >>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.
> >>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is
> >>> a short term fix.

> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 17:24 -0500, Ed Boyce wrote:
>  
>> Bert,
>>
>>    This is happening on several recent distros (including Fedora Core 5,6
>> atd Ubuntu 6.10), and in all cases, other OpenGL apps run fine and, as
>> far as I can tell, there in no references any composite enabled in
>> their xorg.conf files.  Perhaps we need to proactively disable
>> something with an OPTION statement in the videocard device section?
>>
>>    This problem is preventing the SDK from working on the stock
>> installations (+nvidia binary and otherwise working OpenGL) of several
>> mainline Linux distributions.
>>
>>        -- Ed
>>
>>       --
>>
>> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>    
>>> Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If not, we
>>> might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
>>>
>>> Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a working
>>> app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer() in
>>>
>>> http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
>>> display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
>>>
>>> I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux anymore.
>>>
>>> - Bert -
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>> Thanks Justin,
>>>>
>>>>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
>>>> read your mail.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.
>>>>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
>>>>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.
>>>>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is
>>>>> a short term fix.
>>>>>          
>
> Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
> knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
> I have these set:
>
> Section "Module"
> Load  "type1"
> Load  "freetype"
> Load  "glx"
> Load  "dbe"
> Load  "extmod"
> and:
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Videocard0"
> Driver      "nvidia"
> VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
> BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>
> I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
> running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
> can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
> the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
> just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>
>  

> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 17:24 -0500, Ed Boyce wrote:
>> Bert,
>>
>>    This is happening on several recent distros (including Fedora Core
>> 5,6
>> atd Ubuntu 6.10), and in all cases, other OpenGL apps run fine and, as
>> far as I can tell, there in no references any composite enabled in
>> their xorg.conf files.  Perhaps we need to proactively disable
>> something with an OPTION statement in the videocard device section?
>>
>>    This problem is preventing the SDK from working on the stock
>> installations (+nvidia binary and otherwise working OpenGL) of several
>> mainline Linux distributions.
>>
>>        -- Ed
>>
>>       --
>>
>> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> > Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If not, we
>> > might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
>> >
>> > Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a working
>> > app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer() in
>> >
>> > http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
>> > display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
>> >
>> > I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux
>> anymore.
>> >
>> > - Bert -
>> >
>> > On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks Justin,
>> >>
>> >>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
>> >> read your mail.
>> >>
>> >> Josh
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.
>> >>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
>> >>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.
>> >>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is
>> >>> a short term fix.
>
> Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
> knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
> I have these set:
>
> Section "Module"
> Load  "type1"
> Load  "freetype"
> Load  "glx"
> Load  "dbe"
> Load  "extmod"
> and:
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Videocard0"
> Driver      "nvidia"
> VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
> BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>
> I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
> running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
> can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
> the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
> just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>

> --
> ================================================
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/
> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar
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> ================================================
>
>

> see appendix s:
>
> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/README.txt
>
> --
> brad fuller
>  http://www.Sonaural.com/
>  +1 (408) 799-6124
>
>
>

> Ric Moore wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 17:24 -0500, Ed Boyce wrote:
> >> Bert,
> >>
> >>    This is happening on several recent distros (including Fedora Core
> >> 5,6 atd Ubuntu 6.10), and in all cases, other OpenGL apps run fine and,
> >> as far as I can tell, there in no references any composite enabled in
> >> their xorg.conf files.  Perhaps we need to proactively disable
> >> something with an OPTION statement in the videocard device section?
> >>
> >>    This problem is preventing the SDK from working on the stock
> >> installations (+nvidia binary and otherwise working OpenGL) of several
> >> mainline Linux distributions.
> >>
> >>        -- Ed
> >>
> >>       --
> >>
> >> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> >>> Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If not, we
> >>> might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
> >>>
> >>> Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a working
> >>> app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer() in
> >>>
> >>> http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
> >>> display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
> >>>
> >>> I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux anymore.
> >>>
> >>> - Bert -
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
> >>>> Thanks Justin,
> >>>>
> >>>>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
> >>>> read your mail.
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> >>>>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.
> >>>>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
> >>>>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.
> >>>>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is
> >>>>> a short term fix.
> >
> > Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
> > knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
> > I have these set:
> >
> > Section "Module"
> > Load  "type1"
> > Load  "freetype"
> > Load  "glx"
> > Load  "dbe"
> > Load  "extmod"
> > and:
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier  "Videocard0"
> > Driver      "nvidia"
> > VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
> > BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
> > Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> >
> > I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
> > running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
> > can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
> > the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
> > just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>
> Might be referring to:
>
> Option  "Composite" "Enable"
>
> see appendix s:
>
> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/README.txt

> This is going to be a problem as all the new distros have moved to a
> situation where the composite extentions are enabled by default. because of
> the compiz aiglx phenomena that is going on.
>
> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>
> Is something that I would try and change to false. I cant test these things
> on my current machine at the moment I am afraid, but I would also definatly
> change the
>
> Option  "Composite" "Enable"
>
> to false as well. And if it don't exist, add it and set it to false as I
> think that these things are now being added by default. Let us know how it
> goes for you.
>
> I would also like to find out if this is affecting all Squeak Opengl
> applications or only Croquet as well. If anyone test this please let us
> know how it goes.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Justin Emmanuel
>
> On Monday 12 February 2007 06:48, Brad Fuller wrote:
> > Ric Moore wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 17:24 -0500, Ed Boyce wrote:
> > >> Bert,
> > >>
> > >>    This is happening on several recent distros (including Fedora Core
> > >> 5,6 atd Ubuntu 6.10), and in all cases, other OpenGL apps run fine
> > >> and, as far as I can tell, there in no references any composite
> > >> enabled in their xorg.conf files.  Perhaps we need to proactively
> > >> disable something with an OPTION statement in the videocard device
> > >> section?
> > >>
> > >>    This problem is preventing the SDK from working on the stock
> > >> installations (+nvidia binary and otherwise working OpenGL) of several
> > >> mainline Linux distributions.
> > >>
> > >>        -- Ed
> > >>
> > >>       --
> > >>
> > >> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > >>> Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If not, we
> > >>> might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a working
> > >>> app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer() in
> > >>>
> > >>> http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
> > >>> display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
> > >>>
> > >>> I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux
> > >>> anymore.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Bert -
> > >>>
> > >>> On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
> > >>>> Thanks Justin,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
> > >>>> read your mail.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Josh
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> > >>>>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.
> > >>>>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
> > >>>>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.
> > >>>>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is
> > >>>>> a short term fix.
> > >
> > > Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
> > > knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
> > > I have these set:
> > >
> > > Section "Module"
> > > Load  "type1"
> > > Load  "freetype"
> > > Load  "glx"
> > > Load  "dbe"
> > > Load  "extmod"
> > > and:
> > > Section "Device"
> > > Identifier  "Videocard0"
> > > Driver      "nvidia"
> > > VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
> > > BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
> > > Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> > >
> > > I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
> > > running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
> > > can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
> > > the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
> > > just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
> >
> > Might be referring to:
> >
> > Option  "Composite" "Enable"
> >
> > see appendix s:
> >
> > ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/README.txt

> One other thing, make sure you are not using compiz, aiglx and co.  
> As Croquet
> will definitely fail if you do.
>
> I would really like to know if it is only Croquet's Opengl that is  
> failing and
> why. Previously I assumed that is might be Squeak's Opengl  
> implementation
> that Croquet uses. I would love to be able to find out which one it  
> is.
> Anyone know how to progress if it is something that is due to  
> Squeak being at
> fault?
>
> On Monday 12 February 2007 14:08, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
>> This is going to be a problem as all the new distros have moved to a
>> situation where the composite extentions are enabled by default.  
>> because of
>> the compiz aiglx phenomena that is going on.
>>
>> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>>
>> Is something that I would try and change to false. I cant test  
>> these things
>> on my current machine at the moment I am afraid, but I would also  
>> definatly
>> change the
>>
>> Option  "Composite" "Enable"
>>
>> to false as well. And if it don't exist, add it and set it to  
>> false as I
>> think that these things are now being added by default. Let us  
>> know how it
>> goes for you.
>>
>> I would also like to find out if this is affecting all Squeak Opengl
>> applications or only Croquet as well. If anyone test this please  
>> let us
>> know how it goes.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Justin Emmanuel
>>
>> On Monday 12 February 2007 06:48, Brad Fuller wrote:
>>> Ric Moore wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 17:24 -0500, Ed Boyce wrote:
>>>>> Bert,
>>>>>
>>>>>    This is happening on several recent distros (including  
>>>>> Fedora Core
>>>>> 5,6 atd Ubuntu 6.10), and in all cases, other OpenGL apps run fine
>>>>> and, as far as I can tell, there in no references any composite
>>>>> enabled in their xorg.conf files.  Perhaps we need to proactively
>>>>> disable something with an OPTION statement in the videocard device
>>>>> section?
>>>>>
>>>>>    This problem is preventing the SDK from working on the stock
>>>>> installations (+nvidia binary and otherwise working OpenGL) of  
>>>>> several
>>>>> mainline Linux distributions.
>>>>>
>>>>>        -- Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>       --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If  
>>>>>> not, we
>>>>>> might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a  
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer
>>>>>> () in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
>>>>>> display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux
>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bert -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks Justin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
>>>>>>> read your mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
>>>>>>>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-
>>>>>>>> x11 r7.
>>>>>>>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
>>>>>>>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this  
>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks,  
>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> a short term fix.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far  
>>>> more
>>>> knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
>>>> I have these set:
>>>>
>>>> Section "Module"
>>>> Load  "type1"
>>>> Load  "freetype"
>>>> Load  "glx"
>>>> Load  "dbe"
>>>> Load  "extmod"
>>>> and:
>>>> Section "Device"
>>>> Identifier  "Videocard0"
>>>> Driver      "nvidia"
>>>> VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
>>>> BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
>>>> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>>>>
>>>> I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all  
>>>> I get
>>>> running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death,  
>>>> while I
>>>> can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that  
>>>> none of
>>>> the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run  
>>>> openGL
>>>> just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>>>
>>> Might be referring to:
>>>
>>> Option  "Composite" "Enable"
>>>
>>> see appendix s:
>>>
>>> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/
>>> README.txt

>
>> Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
>> knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
>> I have these set:
>>
>> Section "Module"
>> Load  "type1"
>> Load  "freetype"
>> Load  "glx"
>> Load  "dbe"
>> Load  "extmod"
>> and:
>> Section "Device"
>> Identifier  "Videocard0"
>> Driver      "nvidia"
>> VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
>> BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
>> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>>
>> I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
>> running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
>> can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
>> the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
>> just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>>
>>    
>
>    This is the same failure mode I see, on several distros, with the same
> xorg.conf settings for the nvidia card.
>
>         -- Ed
>
>
>
>  
>> --
>> ================================================
>> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
>> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
>> Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/
>> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar
>> http://www.wayward4now.net
>> ================================================
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>
>
>  

>
>
> Ed Boyce wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
>>> knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
>>> I have these set:
>>>
>>> Section "Module"
>>> Load  "type1"
>>> Load  "freetype"
>>> Load  "glx"
>>> Load  "dbe"
>>> Load  "extmod"
>>> and:
>>> Section "Device"
>>> Identifier  "Videocard0"
>>> Driver      "nvidia"
>>> VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
>>> BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
>>> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>>>
>>> I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
>>> running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
>>> can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
>>> the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
>>> just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>>>
>>>
>>
>>    This is the same failure mode I see, on several distros, with the
>> same
>> xorg.conf settings for the nvidia card.
>>
>>         -- Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> ================================================
>>> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>>> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
>>> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>>> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
>>> Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/
>>> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar
>>> http://www.wayward4now.net
>>> ================================================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

> This is going to be a problem as all the new distros have moved to a situation
> where the composite extentions are enabled by default. because of the compiz
> aiglx phenomena that is going on.
>
> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>
> Is something that I would try and change to false. I cant test these things on
> my current machine at the moment I am afraid, but I would also definatly
> change the
>
> Option  "Composite" "Enable"
>
> to false as well. And if it don't exist, add it and set it to false as I think
> that these things are now being added by default. Let us know how it goes for
> you.
>
> I would also like to find out if this is affecting all Squeak Opengl
> applications or only Croquet as well. If anyone test this please let us know
> how it goes.

> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 14:08 +0000, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
>> This is going to be a problem as all the new distros have moved to  
>> a situation
>> where the composite extentions are enabled by default. because of  
>> the compiz
>> aiglx phenomena that is going on.
>>
>> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>>
>> Is something that I would try and change to false. I cant test  
>> these things on
>> my current machine at the moment I am afraid, but I would also  
>> definatly
>> change the
>>
>> Option  "Composite" "Enable"
>>
>> to false as well. And if it don't exist, add it and set it to  
>> false as I think
>> that these things are now being added by default. Let us know how  
>> it goes for
>> you.
>>
>> I would also like to find out if this is affecting all Squeak Opengl
>> applications or only Croquet as well. If anyone test this please  
>> let us know
>> how it goes.
>
> OK, I'll disable the AddARGBGXVisuals as I killed off compiz. Nice
> eye-candy but just adds another layer of dysfunction to X. Now I'm
> getting an error that seems to have nothing to do with openGL. Please
> note that if I try "simpledemo" Croquet freezes straight up and I have
> to kill -9 it's process ID. I got this error attempting to run Demo
> Master:
>
> ERROR: 192.168.1.101:37501 ConnectionClosed: Connection close while
> waiting for
> [] in Socket>>waitForData {[ConnectionClosed signal: 'Connection close
> while wai
> [] in TMessageRouterClient(TMessageRelay)>>runReaderProcess {[buf
> atAllPut: 0.
> [] in BlockContext>>newProcess {[self value. {[self perform:  
> aSelector]}
>  Processor terminateActive]}
>
> I don't seem to get the openGL error in the Squeak3D.log now.
> Ric

> David P. Reed wrote:
>  
>> Here's how to add the composite extension to your xorg.conf:
>>
>>
>>     Section "Extensions"
>>             Option      "Composite"
>>     EndSection
>>
>>
>>    
>
> Doesn't seem to affect the OpenGL initialization failure, at least on FC
> 6, with the above section inserted into the xorg.conf file and Option
> "Composite" either enabled or disabled in the video card section.
>
>    -- Ed
>
>
>
>  
>> Ed Boyce wrote:
>>    
>>>> Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
>>>> knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
>>>> I have these set:
>>>>
>>>> Section "Module"
>>>> Load  "type1"
>>>> Load  "freetype"
>>>> Load  "glx"
>>>> Load  "dbe"
>>>> Load  "extmod"
>>>> and:
>>>> Section "Device"
>>>> Identifier  "Videocard0"
>>>> Driver      "nvidia"
>>>> VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
>>>> BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
>>>> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>>>>
>>>> I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
>>>> running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
>>>> can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
>>>> the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
>>>> just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>    This is the same failure mode I see, on several distros, with the
>>> same
>>> xorg.conf settings for the nvidia card.
>>>
>>>         -- Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>> --
>>>> ================================================
>>>> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>>>> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
>>>> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>>>> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
>>>> Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/
>>>> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar
>>>> http://www.wayward4now.net
>>>> ================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>
>
>
>
>  

> I really can't figure out what is going on in your cases.   I use FC6
> with nvidia, and it has worked fine for me on an x86_64 notebook and it
> has worked fine for me.   I will poke around a bit more.
>
> Ed Boyce wrote:
>> David P. Reed wrote:
>>
>>> Here's how to add the composite extension to your xorg.conf:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Section "Extensions"
>>>             Option      "Composite"
>>>     EndSection
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Doesn't seem to affect the OpenGL initialization failure, at least on FC
>> 6, with the above section inserted into the xorg.conf file and Option
>> "Composite" either enabled or disabled in the video card section.
>>
>>    -- Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ed Boyce wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
>>>>> knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
>>>>> I have these set:
>>>>>
>>>>> Section "Module"
>>>>> Load  "type1"
>>>>> Load  "freetype"
>>>>> Load  "glx"
>>>>> Load  "dbe"
>>>>> Load  "extmod"
>>>>> and:
>>>>> Section "Device"
>>>>> Identifier  "Videocard0"
>>>>> Driver      "nvidia"
>>>>> VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
>>>>> BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
>>>>> Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
>>>>>
>>>>> I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I
>>>>> get
>>>>> running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
>>>>> can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
>>>>> the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run
>>>>> openGL
>>>>> just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>    This is the same failure mode I see, on several distros, with the
>>>> same
>>>> xorg.conf settings for the nvidia card.
>>>>
>>>>         -- Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ================================================
>>>>> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>>>>> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
>>>>> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>>>>> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
>>>>> Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/
>>>>> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar
>>>>> http://www.wayward4now.net
>>>>> ================================================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

> One other thing, make sure you are not using compiz, aiglx and co. As Croquet
> will definitely fail if you do.
>
> I would really like to know if it is only Croquet's Opengl that is failing and
> why. Previously I assumed that is might be Squeak's Opengl implementation
> that Croquet uses. I would love to be able to find out which one it is.
> Anyone know how to progress if it is something that is due to Squeak being at
> fault?
>
> On Monday 12 February 2007 14:08, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> > This is going to be a problem as all the new distros have moved to a
> > situation where the composite extentions are enabled by default. because of
> > the compiz aiglx phenomena that is going on.
> >
> > Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> >
> > Is something that I would try and change to false. I cant test these things
> > on my current machine at the moment I am afraid, but I would also definatly
> > change the
> >
> > Option  "Composite" "Enable"
> >
> > to false as well. And if it don't exist, add it and set it to false as I
> > think that these things are now being added by default. Let us know how it
> > goes for you.
> >
> > I would also like to find out if this is affecting all Squeak Opengl
> > applications or only Croquet as well. If anyone test this please let us
> > know how it goes.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Justin Emmanuel
> >
> > On Monday 12 February 2007 06:48, Brad Fuller wrote:
> > > Ric Moore wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 17:24 -0500, Ed Boyce wrote:
> > > >> Bert,
> > > >>
> > > >>    This is happening on several recent distros (including Fedora Core
> > > >> 5,6 atd Ubuntu 6.10), and in all cases, other OpenGL apps run fine
> > > >> and, as far as I can tell, there in no references any composite
> > > >> enabled in their xorg.conf files.  Perhaps we need to proactively
> > > >> disable something with an OPTION statement in the videocard device
> > > >> section?
> > > >>
> > > >>    This problem is preventing the SDK from working on the stock
> > > >> installations (+nvidia binary and otherwise working OpenGL) of several
> > > >> mainline Linux distributions.
> > > >>
> > > >>        -- Ed
> > > >>
> > > >>       --
> > > >>
> > > >> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > > >>> Interesting. Do other OpenGL apps have this problem, too? If not, we
> > > >>> might be doing something wrong in setting up our GL context.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any X11-savvy Linux developer out there? You might compare a working
> > > >>> app to our init code, see function display_ioGLcreateRenderer() in
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/unix/vm-
> > > >>> display-X11/sqUnixX11.c?rev=1571&view=auto
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I wrote that code originally, but I'm not doing 3D under Linux
> > > >>> anymore.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> - Bert -
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:29 , Joshua Gargus wrote:
> > > >>>> Thanks Justin,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  I would have had a heck of a time figuring this out if I hadn't
> > > >>>> read your mail.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Josh
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sep 17, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Justin Emmanuel wrote:
> > > >>>>> I found out what the problem was (sort of). It is not xorg-x11 r7.
> > > >>>>> It is the composite enabled options that I put in /etc/X11/
> > > >>>>> xorg.conf. Once I removed these it all works fine. With this on.
> > > >>>>> Opengl will not initialize in Croquet. So if anyone asks, that is
> > > >>>>> a short term fix.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, this has been killing me and my friend Les, who is far far more
> > > > knowledgeable than I. Which options do you consider composite?
> > > > I have these set:
> > > >
> > > > Section "Module"
> > > > Load  "type1"
> > > > Load  "freetype"
> > > > Load  "glx"
> > > > Load  "dbe"
> > > > Load  "extmod"
> > > > and:
> > > > Section "Device"
> > > > Identifier  "Videocard0"
> > > > Driver      "nvidia"
> > > > VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
> > > > BoardName   "GeForce FX 5200"
> > > > Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> > > >
> > > > I just don't see a specific setting for composite. I do know all I get
> > > > running the Croquet Collaborative is the red screen of death, while I
> > > > can run all the games, programming tools, etc. It's just that none of
> > > > the demos seem to work. I run plenty of apps that otherwise run openGL
> > > > just fine. AFAIK. I sure hope to get this resolved. Ric
> > >
> > > Might be referring to:
> > >
> > > Option  "Composite" "Enable"
> > >
> > > see appendix s:
> > >
> > > ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/README.txt