A few days ago I started to write something like that in the collaborActive Book:
http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: francois excellent initiative! _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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OK, that's a good argument. So, I'd like to come to a conclusion:
- Photos with short summary as prototyped by Laurent - On the main website under "Community" (rather than "About"), listed alphabetically by first name - People are invited to get an entry if they have contributed or if they are in another way involved in the community (e.g., by being an active user) OK? Adrian On Aug 13, 2010, at 22:29 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Yea, that's a good question. I think it's primarily for us. Who else would be interested? Someone taking a technology decision? "Sure, I'm going to use Pharo – these guys look so cute!" ;). Not likely. >> >> So, the Google wiki could be a better place. Unless we want to argue that the website is not only for new people learning about Pharo but also for us to build the community. > > This is nice to see that there are a lot of people around a project. > So this is not the question of cute people this is a question of community so I would put that on the project web site (not the google one). > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
Adrian, I did not find how to move the page from About to Community.
I added you Sean. Laurent
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Very nice pictures.
I wonder if i deserve to be in this list. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: Very nice pictures. I think so. Laurent
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I've just improved it a little more :).
http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools/?_s=OlHcsQPqbr65aXud&_k=Wrw5oK5_P7Q17GDv It's not such a great thing yet. It needs a lot of work like: - review the classification I made :P. - remove from the list the items we don't like, don't care or don't want in pharo. - adding more packages. I would like to improve the communications tools list with soap ones if any, the XMLRPC gsoc project, and inter image communication tools... I believe it's important to introduce pharo in commercial projects. - adding better explanations of each tool? - specifying the status of each tool. Is it stable on pharo 1.0? and in 1.1? Which is the metacello config for 1.0 and 1.1? - adding more configurationOf I didn't found to the book - creating more configurationOf for packages that lack of them. - review what I did - review what I did - review what I did - review what I did Good night! hehe Guille
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: A few days ago I started to write something like that in the collaborActive Book: _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Very nice pictures. > I wonder if i deserve to be in this list. Yes! But if you feel bad about it, maybe you can contribute more in the future to make up for it ;-) e.g. looking at the bug tracker once in a while... just 380 open entries. Especially the trivialities are not much work but quite relaxing to work on. And it's amazing how different a system looks after just fixing 1000 trivial "unimportant" small things. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On 15 August 2010 12:25, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Very nice pictures. >> I wonder if i deserve to be in this list. > > > Yes! But if you feel bad about it, maybe you can contribute more in the future to make up for it ;-) > Yeah. I will definitely do more. > e.g. looking at the bug tracker once in a while... just 380 open entries. Especially the trivialities > are not much work but quite relaxing to work on. And it's amazing how different a system looks > after just fixing 1000 trivial "unimportant" small things. > I never focused on wiping/inspecting bug entries. I am usually find myself scratching own itches in a corner. And bug discovery and fixing is side product of my activity :) > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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yes!
On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > OK, that's a good argument. So, I'd like to come to a conclusion: > > - Photos with short summary as prototyped by Laurent > - On the main website under "Community" (rather than "About"), listed alphabetically by first name > - People are invited to get an entry if they have contributed or if they are in another way involved in the community (e.g., by being an active user) > > OK? > > Adrian > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 22:29 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> >>> Yea, that's a good question. I think it's primarily for us. Who else would be interested? Someone taking a technology decision? "Sure, I'm going to use Pharo – these guys look so cute!" ;). Not likely. >>> >>> So, the Google wiki could be a better place. Unless we want to argue that the website is not only for new people learning about Pharo but also for us to build the community. >> >> This is nice to see that there are a lot of people around a project. >> So this is not the question of cute people this is a question of community so I would put that on the project web site (not the google one). >> >> Stef >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/8/15 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
> > On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Very nice pictures. >> I wonder if i deserve to be in this list. > > > Yes! But if you feel bad about it, maybe you can contribute more in the future to make up for it ;-) > > e.g. looking at the bug tracker once in a while... just 380 open entries. Especially the trivialities > are not much work but quite relaxing to work on. And it's amazing how different a system looks > after just fixing 1000 trivial "unimportant" small things. > Yes, definitely. I can say, in my own experience, that trying to fix bugs help me learn a lot of things about the environment itself (Are things that if I'm not looking at for fix bugs surelly will not look). Obviously, I'm not talking about igor and other people with a lot more knowledgment than me, only commenting my own experience. And by other hand, if I use Pharo, I feel the need of help on the development, it's the open source spirit. About the pics page, I think that is very important to expose our names to possible companies requiring work, very important to freelancers as me. Just my opinion. Germán. > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- ================================================= Germán S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com ================================================= _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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> Yes, definitely. I can say, in my own experience, that trying to fix > bugs help me learn a lot of things > about the environment itself (Are things that if I'm not looking at > for fix bugs surelly will not look). This is cool I learned a lot doing that since squeak 3.3. or 3.2 (In fact I started to talk about marcus about jazz when we were both harvesters and never meet.) > Obviously, I'm not talking about igor and other people with a lot more > knowledgment than me, only > commenting my own experience. And by other hand, if I use Pharo, I > feel the need of help on the > development, it's the open source spirit. Thanks. I think that taking care of a stuff that can help you for your projects is important in general. For example people can ask themselves: why stef is spending so much time on ESUG (because this is a lot of time and energy), well simple, when I discovered Smalltalk I went to the conf and it was dying (both the language and the conference) so I thought either I complain: "oh my language is dying sniff sniff", "when I was young there were a cool conference". Or I do something to try to make the future better. Simple is n't it? Something you do not know if it will work but trying is the only chance we got. > About the pics page, I think that is very important to expose our > names to possible companies > requiring work, very important to freelancers as me. > > Just my opinion. This is an important one :) Pharo is our software not mine. Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On 15 August 2010 18:24, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> Yes, definitely. I can say, in my own experience, that trying to fix >> bugs help me learn a lot of things >> about the environment itself (Are things that if I'm not looking at >> for fix bugs surelly will not look). > > This is cool I learned a lot doing that since squeak 3.3. or 3.2 > (In fact I started to talk about marcus about jazz when we were both harvesters > and never meet.) > >> Obviously, I'm not talking about igor and other people with a lot more >> knowledgment than me, only >> commenting my own experience. And by other hand, if I use Pharo, I >> feel the need of help on the >> development, it's the open source spirit. > > Thanks. > I think that taking care of a stuff that can help you for your projects is important in general. > For example people can ask themselves: why stef is spending so much time on ESUG (because this is a lot of time > and energy), well simple, when I discovered Smalltalk I went to the conf and it was dying (both the language > and the conference) so I thought either I complain: "oh my language is dying sniff sniff", "when I was young there > were a cool conference". Or I do something to try to make the future better. > Simple is n't it? Something you do not know if it will work but trying is the only chance we got. > Yes, it is. There is a little people who put as much energy into it (smalltalk in general) as you do, totally freely, without any business agenda. I can only applaud your efforts and wish you success. And, please continue :) >> About the pics page, I think that is very important to expose our >> names to possible companies >> requiring work, very important to freelancers as me. >> >> Just my opinion. > > This is an important one :) > Pharo is our software not mine. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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>>> Obviously, I'm not talking about igor and other people with a lot more >>> knowledgment than me, only >>> commenting my own experience. And by other hand, if I use Pharo, I >>> feel the need of help on the >>> development, it's the open source spirit. >> >> Thanks. >> I think that taking care of a stuff that can help you for your projects is important in general. >> For example people can ask themselves: why stef is spending so much time on ESUG (because this is a lot of time >> and energy), well simple, when I discovered Smalltalk I went to the conf and it was dying (both the language >> and the conference) so I thought either I complain: "oh my language is dying sniff sniff", "when I was young there >> were a cool conference". Or I do something to try to make the future better. >> Simple is n't it? Something you do not know if it will work but trying is the only chance we got. >> > > Yes, it is. > There is a little people who put as much energy into it (smalltalk in > general) as you do, > totally freely, without any business agenda. > I can only applaud your efforts and wish you success. > And, please continue :) Thanks. Fun and love is my business agenda even if sometimes I have my own doubts.... _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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