Shorter Pharo Launcher download link

Having launcher.pharo.org would be cool.
Now I do not know how to do such binding.

This is in the same vein as Sean's recent 'Clean up Download Instructions' email.

While updating the Pharo By Example chapter on installing Pharo, we decided to mention the Pharo Launcher project as a convenient way to use multiple images, etc.

Unfortunately, as far as I know, the download link for it is:

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/Launcher/job/Launcher/PHARO=40,VERSION=stable,VM=vm,label=linux/

(And even then, you have to scroll down to the tiny 'Last Successful Artifacts' section).

That's a bit awkward to put in a book for people to type out, to say the least.

Is there any way we can either:

1) Use an existing URL shortener to link to that

2) Have some Apache-redirected URLs off of pharo.org? Something like pharo.org/launcher/ that would have the download links to the various Launcher builds?

The same also goes for some of the books, by the way. In a later chapter, we link to Pharo for the Enterprise, and we actually type out the link:

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/

Sub-optimal. :)

Dmitri Zagidulin wrote

Unfortunately, as far as I know, the download link for it is:

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/Launcher/job/Launcher/PHARO=40,VERSION=stable,VM=vm,label=linux/

The Launcher artifacts are mirrored at http://files.pharo.org/platform/launcher/. Maybe we should do the same with the book(s)?

Dmitri Zagidulin wrote

Do I use user-stable? user-0.2.4? What OS are these for? etc.

Those are just the Launcher image and changes file

Dmitri Zagidulin wrote

Can we make it even easier?

The files you want are latest.dmg and latest.exe.

Dmitri Zagidulin wrote

Perfect! :) Thanks Sean.

No problem! I'm glad you got what you needed :)

Dmitri Zagidulin wrote

(And, just for completeness, is there a pre-built launcher for Linux
(Ubuntu or otherwise)?)

I was wondering that while browsing through the files. From https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/Launcher/job/Launcher/39/PHARO=40,VERSION=stable,VM=vm,label=linux/ it doesn't look like it, but if you install Pharo via the Ubuntu ppa (see http://pharo.org/download), Launcher is what you get.

Dmitri Zagidulin <[hidden email]> writes:

> (And, just for completeness, is there a pre-built launcher for Linux
> (Ubuntu or otherwise)?)

on Linux, users typically want packages through their
distribution-specific mechanism. This is already possible on Gentoo,
Ubuntu and Nix.

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Damien Cassou wrote

This is already possible on Gentoo... and Nix.

What are the instructions? To be added to http://pharo.org/download ...

Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> writes:

> Damien Cassou wrote
>> This is already possible on Gentoo... and Nix.
>
> What are the instructions? To be added to http://pharo.org/download ...


I'm not sure we should pollute the Pharo website with instructions that
should be known by the user. For example, Gentoo users know how to
install packages on Gentoo hopefully. We can however add a sentence
saying that there are dedicated packages for these platforms.


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Le 13 avr. 2015 à 14:00, Damien Cassou a écrit :
I would like to have these instructions because they could be different from a version of your distribution to another.
It is always better to have the full documentation instead of relying on people knowledge.
Maybe it should not be on the default download page but the information should be available easily.

demarey wrote

It is always better to have the full documentation instead of relying on people knowledge.

For example, Ruby gives a one-liner for each package manager https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/installation/

EstebanLM wrote

yes, but ruby has also lot more resources :)

Of course, not complaining, just pointing to an example...

demarey wrote

>>> This is already possible on Gentoo... and Nix.
It is always better to have the full documentation instead of relying on people knowledge.

Yes, I did not even know we had these. What do they download? Launcher? VM + image? VM-only?

Sean P. DeNigris wrote

I did not even know we had these

I even searched the ml archive for "Gentoo" and did not find a single reference to a package!

Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> writes:

> demarey wrote
>>>>> This is already possible on Gentoo... and Nix.
>> It is always better to have the full documentation instead of relying on
>> people knowledge.
>
> Yes, I did not even know we had these. What do they download? Launcher? VM +
> image? VM-only?

each package maintainer decide what to package. For Ubuntu and Nix, the
Pharo VM and launcher are provided as 2 separate packages.

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Damien Cassou wrote

each package maintainer decide what to package. For Ubuntu and Nix, the
Pharo VM and launcher are provided as 2 separate packages.

Thanks for the clarification! Where are the Nix and Gentoo infrastructure hosted? I think we should collect all of these things under github/pharo

Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> writes:

> Thanks for the clarification! Where are the Nix and Gentoo infrastructure
> hosted? I think we should collect all of these things under github/pharo

for Nix, this is in the nixpkgs repository:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/development/pharo

for Gentoo, it seems that several people contributed several recipes. I
put JC on CC so he can tell more.

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