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Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

hernanmd
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have
previously asked and nobody replied:

http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html

Cheers,

Hernán

El 23/12/2013 20:13, vmusulainen escribió:

> Hi,
>
> I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0.
> It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the
> package and  fixed it.  I would  make  my fixes public for community. How do
> it?
> Does exist any guide?
> If I right understand this  document
> <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute>   describe
> contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>


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Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2
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Hello,

On 24 Dec 2013, at 00:13, vmusulainen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0.
> It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the
> package and  fixed it.  I would  make  my fixes public for community. How do
> it?
> Does exist any guide?
> If I right understand this  document
> <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute>   describe
> contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.

WebClient, like hundreds of others, is indeed a third-party, external package to Pharo. How are these maintained ? By their authors, and in some cases by volunteers. You can certainly discuss about these on the mailing lists and look for help, but you cannot expect the core Pharo community to take responsibility or to have any kind of obligation to act.

Now, the original author of WebClient, Andreas Raab, sadly passed away last year. I see that the repository is readonly:

  http://www.squeaksource.com/WebClient.html

If you cannot find anyone to give you write access, your only option would be to fork the code.

Regards,

Sven

PS: I assume you do know that Pharo has out of the box, fully supported, HTTP client and server functionality standard in the image since 1.3, in the form of Zinc HTTP Components (ZnClient, ZnServer, ZnEasy) ?


--
Sven Van Caekenberghe
Proudly supporting Pharo
http://pharo.org
http://association.pharo.org
http://consortium.pharo.org





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Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

EstebanLM

On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:54, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On 24 Dec 2013, at 00:13, vmusulainen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0.
>> It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the
>> package and  fixed it.  I would  make  my fixes public for community. How do
>> it?
>> Does exist any guide?
>> If I right understand this  document
>> <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute>   describe
>> contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
>
> WebClient, like hundreds of others, is indeed a third-party, external package to Pharo. How are these maintained ? By their authors, and in some cases by volunteers. You can certainly discuss about these on the mailing lists and look for help, but you cannot expect the core Pharo community to take responsibility or to have any kind of obligation to act.
>
> Now, the original author of WebClient, Andreas Raab, sadly passed away last year. I see that the repository is readonly:
>
>  http://www.squeaksource.com/WebClient.html
>
> If you cannot find anyone to give you write access, your only option would be to fork the code.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sven
>
> PS: I assume you do know that Pharo has out of the box, fully supported, HTTP client and server functionality standard in the image since 1.3, in the form of Zinc HTTP Components (ZnClient, ZnServer, ZnEasy) ?

yep.
why would you want to install webclient when you already has an out-of-the-box and actively maintained solution?

>
>
> --
> Sven Van Caekenberghe
> Proudly supporting Pharo
> http://pharo.org
> http://association.pharo.org
> http://consortium.pharo.org
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

EstebanLM
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On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
>
> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html

what is a “community package”?

>
> Cheers,
>
> Hernán
>
> El 23/12/2013 20:13, vmusulainen escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0.
>> It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the
>> package and  fixed it.  I would  make  my fixes public for community. How do
>> it?
>> Does exist any guide?
>> If I right understand this  document
>> <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute>   describe
>> contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html
>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

hernanmd
El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
>
> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
>>
>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
>
> what is a “community package”?
>

The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community
as possible.

Hernán


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How to contribute [WAS: Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

EstebanLM
Yeah, that part I can understand it.
What I don’t understand is what would be that.

Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub
Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub

we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.

For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of “Issue report” and “SLICE provider”.
For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.

All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/?
And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.

For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).

Esteban

On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:

> El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
>>
>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
>>>
>>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
>>
>> what is a “community package”?
>>
>
> The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
>
> Hernán
>
>


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Re: How to contribute [WAS: Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

EstebanLM
btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should).

On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yeah, that part I can understand it.
> What I don’t understand is what would be that.
>
> Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub
> Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub
>
> we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.
>
> For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of “Issue report” and “SLICE provider”.
> For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.
>
> All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/?
> And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.
>
> For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).
>
> Esteban
>
> On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
>>>
>>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
>>>>
>>>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
>>>
>>> what is a “community package”?
>>>
>>
>> The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: How to contribute [WAS: Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

hernanmd
Then you better read how populations or languages become extinct.

Hernán


2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>
btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should).

On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yeah, that part I can understand it.
> What I don’t understand is what would be that.
>
> Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub
> Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub
>
> we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.
>
> For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of “Issue report” and “SLICE provider”.
> For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.
>
> All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/?
> And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.
>
> For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).
>
> Esteban
>
> On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
>>>
>>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
>>>>
>>>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
>>>
>>> what is a “community package”?
>>>
>>
>> The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>>
>
>



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Re: How to contribute [WAS: Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

EstebanLM

On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:

Then you better read how populations or languages become extinct.

if you can be less generic and more specific, please. 
I’m trying to understand, not to make any points. 

Esteban


Hernán


2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>
btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should).

On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yeah, that part I can understand it.
> What I don’t understand is what would be that.
>
> Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub
> Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub
>
> we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.
>
> For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of “Issue report” and “SLICE provider”.
> For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.
>
> All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/?
> And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.
>
> For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).
>
> Esteban
>
> On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
>>>
>>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
>>>>
>>>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
>>>
>>> what is a “community package”?
>>>
>>
>> The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>>
>
>




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Re: How to contribute [WAS: Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

hernanmd
Ok, let's continue in the other thread to avoid (more :) confusion.

Hernán


2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>

On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:

Then you better read how populations or languages become extinct.

if you can be less generic and more specific, please. 
I’m trying to understand, not to make any points. 

Esteban


Hernán


2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>
btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should).

On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yeah, that part I can understand it.
> What I don’t understand is what would be that.
>
> Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub
> Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub
>
> we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.
>
> For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of “Issue report” and “SLICE provider”.
> For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.
>
> All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/?
> And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.
>
> For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).
>
> Esteban
>
> On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
>>>
>>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
>>>>
>>>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
>>>
>>> what is a “community package”?
>>>
>>
>> The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>>
>
>





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Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0

Stéphane Ducasse
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Hi

why do you want to use WebClient? Is there something that Zinc does not provide?
Zinc is fully maintained by Sven and is better code.


> Hi,
>
> I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0.
> It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the
> package and  fixed it.

Do you know who is the maintainer of WebClient because this is not a package we maintain it

>  I would  make  my fixes public for community. How do it?

It depends on the owner of the project.

> Does exist any guide?
> If I right understand this  document
> <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute>   describe
> contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>


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