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cbc

[squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,

cbc

Karl Ramberg

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

WorldMenu/apperance/text highlight color

Make sure transparency at the top bar in the color picker is set to more opaque

Karl

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,
cbc

cbc

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

Close. That works for text highlighting:

but not the debugger:

That's the one I want to find. When it is in the middle of a bunch of text - really hard to see.

Now, if I click in the window, the highlight shows up fine - but, of course, it then changes where the highlight is, so that doesn't work well, either.

-cbc

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:39 AM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

WorldMenu/apperance/text highlight color

Make sure transparency at the top bar in the color picker is set to more opaque

Karl

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:
Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,
cbc

Eliot Miranda-2

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

Hi Chris,

look at pcRange, and its wrapper contentsSelection. BTW, looks like selectPC should be deleted.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Close. That works for text highlighting:

but not the debugger:

That's the one I want to find. When it is in the middle of a bunch of text - really hard to see.

Now, if I click in the window, the highlight shows up fine - but, of course, it then changes where the highlight is, so that doesn't work well, either.

-cbc

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:39 AM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
WorldMenu/apperance/text highlight color

Make sure transparency at the top bar in the color picker is set to more opaque

Karl

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:
Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,
cbc

_,,,^..^,,,_

best, Eliot

Karl Ramberg

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

In reply to this post by cbc

Hi,

I tracked it down to

NewParagraph>>selectionColor

| color | Display depth = 1 ifTrue: [^ Color veryLightGray]. Display depth = 2 ifTrue: [^ Color gray]. color := Preferences textHighlightColor. self focused ifFalse: [color := Color gray: 0.9]. ^ color

I liked the previous version of this method better since the

unfocused color reflected the your selection color:

self focused ifFalse: [color := color alphaMixed: 0.2 with: Color veryVeryLightGray].

It's important to see the color of selection in the Debugger even if the pane not has focus

Karl

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,
cbc

marcel.taeumel

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

Hi,

that change was related to this: http://forum.world.st/Deceptive-focus-cue-in-4-6-browsers-td4827358.html

I would rather not revert it but add some additional selection ranges + colors to paragraphs. You need those anyway to display, for example, search term matches in text boxes.

Such an additional range could then be used to highlight the current PC. The button "Where" would not be needed anymore. Hey, we can "save a button"! :)

Best,
Marcel

cbc

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

In reply to this post by Karl Ramberg

Thank you Karl for tracking this down. I have reverted it in my image.

the problem with the gray is that I just cannot see it. The monitor/my eyes combination just can't make out Color gray: 0.9 as a highlight color - I might as well not have a highlight.

-cbc

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 10:14 AM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,
I tracked it down to
NewParagraph>>selectionColor
| color | Display depth = 1 ifTrue: [^ Color veryLightGray]. Display depth = 2 ifTrue: [^ Color gray]. color := Preferences textHighlightColor. self focused ifFalse: [color := Color gray: 0.9]. ^ color

I liked the previous version of this method better since the
unfocused color reflected the your selection color:

self focused ifFalse: [color := color alphaMixed: 0.2 with: Color veryVeryLightGray].

It's important to see the color of selection in the Debugger even if the pane not has focus

Karl

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:
Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,
cbc

Karl Ramberg

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

In reply to this post by marcel.taeumel

I knew I had seen this discussion before :-)

Solving one problem creates another.

I agree that the additional range would be nice here.

Karl

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:07 PM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

that change was related to this:
http://forum.world.st/Deceptive-focus-cue-in-4-6-browsers-td4827358.html

I would rather not revert it but add some additional selection ranges +
colors to paragraphs. You need those anyway to display, for example, search
term matches in text boxes.

Such an additional range could then be used to highlight the current PC. The
button "Where" would not be needed anymore. Hey, we can "save a button"! :)

Best,
Marcel

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Karl Ramberg

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

In reply to this post by cbc

No problem :-)

Karl

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you Karl for tracking this down. I have reverted it in my image.

the problem with the gray is that I just cannot see it. The monitor/my eyes combination just can't make out Color gray: 0.9 as a highlight color - I might as well not have a highlight.

-cbc

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 10:14 AM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,
I tracked it down to
NewParagraph>>selectionColor
| color | Display depth = 1 ifTrue: [^ Color veryLightGray]. Display depth = 2 ifTrue: [^ Color gray]. color := Preferences textHighlightColor. self focused ifFalse: [color := Color gray: 0.9]. ^ color

I liked the previous version of this method better since the
unfocused color reflected the your selection color:

self focused ifFalse: [color := color alphaMixed: 0.2 with: Color veryVeryLightGray].

It's important to see the color of selection in the Debugger even if the pane not has focus

Karl

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:
Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,
cbc

Chris Cunnington-4

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

In reply to this post by cbc

I have a Mac Mini plugged into a 23" LG screen and the highlighting does not appear at all. I have a Mac PowerBook 13" and the light gray highlighting is clearly visible. I suspect that this is varying depending on the screen. I'm reverting for my LG screen.

Chris

On 2015-09-21 11:06 AM, Chris Cunningham wrote:

Thank you Karl for tracking this down. I have reverted it in my image.

the problem with the gray is that I just cannot see it. The monitor/my eyes combination just can't make out Color gray: 0.9 as a highlight color - I might as well not have a highlight.

-cbc

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 10:14 AM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,
I tracked it down to

NewParagraph>>selectionColor

| color | Display depth = 1 ifTrue: [^ Color veryLightGray]. Display depth = 2 ifTrue: [^ Color gray]. color := Preferences textHighlightColor. self focused ifFalse: [color := Color gray: 0.9]. ^ color

I liked the previous version of this method better since the

unfocused color reflected the your selection color:

self focused ifFalse: [color := color alphaMixed: 0.2 with: Color veryVeryLightGray].

It's important to see the color of selection in the Debugger even if the pane not has focus

Karl

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Because I really, really need too change the color. I can't see where the error is - the 'highlight' color is so faint, it looks like nothing is highlighted at all. It makes tracking down where the error is really, really hard.

I had a similar issue a few years ago with the Moose guys - they changed the sliders in the windows to be more aesthetically pleasing, but on some LCD monitors (notably, mine), the color is practically not there at all - like, apparently, this highlight color.

Thanks,

cbc

marcel.taeumel

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

Well, there is a configurable textHighlightColor already. Why not making that other one also configurable?

Best,
Marcel

Chris Muller-3

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:12 AM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Well, there is a configurable textHighlightColor already. Why not making that
> other one also configurable?

_Everything_ w.r.t. colors should be configurable. We need skins / themes.

timrowledge

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

On 21-09-2015, at 11:09 AM, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:12 AM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Well, there is a configurable textHighlightColor already. Why not making that
>> other one also configurable?
>
> _Everything_ w.r.t. colors should be configurable. We need skins / themes.
>

ColorTheme and 9 subclasses…
Yet another bunch of stuff that isn’t complete and properly used.

tim
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Karl Ramberg

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

In reply to this post by marcel.taeumel

What should the unfocused selection highlight be called ?

textHighlightUnfocusedColor ?

Karl

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Well, there is a configurable textHighlightColor already. Why not making that
other one also configurable?

Best,
Marcel

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cbc

Re: [squak-dev] How do I change the debugger highlighting color?

Good question.

If I get around to it, I'd allow specific color selection, legacy option (which is whever the highlight color was alpha: 2 with light gray), and (if I got really ambitious) playing with the alpha/other color.

I won't have time very soon to do any of this, but if it sticks around long enough, I might get to it.

Karl, maybe

textUnfocusedHighlightColor ?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:46 AM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

What should the unfocused selection highlight be called ?

textHighlightUnfocusedColor ?

Karl

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Well, there is a configurable textHighlightColor already. Why not making that
other one also configurable?

Best,
Marcel

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