[squeak-dev] Summer(s) of Code 2007/2008

> Hi all,
>
> in no more than two weeks, the 2008 edition of the Google Summer of Code will
> start. It has been brought to my attention that I never sent a final report
> for last year's edition, so here it is.
>
> Last year we partecipated in the Summer of Code with five students: Damien
> Cassou, Mathieu Suen, Jerome Chaveau, Ben Schroeder, and Oleg Korsak. You can
> learn more about their projects by visiting the Summer of Squeak blog, at
> http://blog.summer.squeak.org/ . All the five students completed their
> projects, and were paid in full by Google. Of the five projects, only one
> (the New Compiler project by Mathieu Suen) is still being worked on. Damien
> has stopped working on Monticello 2, but Colin has remused the work on that,
> even though he's not using Damien's code. I have no news about the other
> three projects. Guys, would you mind sending a quick status report?
>
> For their effort, we received 2500 USD, which are currently in my current
> account. My apologies for not having sent them to Esug yet, but the cheque
> from Google arrived while I was moving to London, so after putting it into my
> account, I kinda set it aside. I'll wire the money to the Esug treasurer
> asap.
>
> To sum up, here are the positives and negatives for last year's SoC:
>
> Positives
> - Five students got to be paid for their work, and we got paid for mentoring
> them, too.
> - We got lots of visibility
>
> Negatives
> - None of the projects, except one, are still being worked on
> - With the possible exception of the new compiler project, the SoC projects
> did not have any impact on the main Squeak image.
>
> This brings us to the other part of my message, which is the 2008 edition of
> the Summer of Code. Unless the board decides otherwise, I'm willing to lead
> the SoC team to apply and possibly partecipate in this year's SoC. In
> comparison to last year's effort, I propose two changes:
>
> - we apply as "Squeak Foundation" instead of simply "Squeak". This would
> allow us to include other projects such as Seaside, Croquet etc more easily.
> - we choose more "down to earth" projects that have a bigger possibility of
> being included in the software we release (the main Squeak image, Seaside,
> Croquet etc).
>
> There are also some more modifications which I'll propose on the SoC mailing
> list.
>
> As usual, comments and flames are welcome.
>
>         Ciao,
>
>                 Giovanni

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:04 PM, giovanni <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >  (the New Compiler project by Mathieu Suen) is still being worked on.
> Damien
> >  has stopped working on Monticello 2, but Colin has remused the work on
> that,
> >  even though he's not using Damien's code. I have no news about the other
> >  three projects. Guys, would you mind sending a quick status report?
>
>
> I think you misunderstood something. Look at commits from
> Monticello2-cwp.178 to 186 in source.wiresong.ca/mc and you will see
> that Colin did use part of what I did.
>

> There are also some more modifications which I'll propose on the SoC  
> mailing
> list.
>
> As usual, comments and flames are welcome.
>
>         Ciao,
>
>                 Giovanni
>
>

> Hi all,
>
> in no more than two weeks, the 2008 edition of the Google Summer of  
> Code will
> start. It has been brought to my attention that I never sent a final  
> report
> for last year's edition, so here it is.
>
> Last year we partecipated in the Summer of Code with five students:  
> Damien
> Cassou, Mathieu Suen, Jerome Chaveau, Ben Schroeder, and Oleg  
> Korsak. You can
> learn more about their projects by visiting the Summer of Squeak  
> blog, at
> http://blog.summer.squeak.org/ . All the five students completed their
> projects, and were paid in full by Google. Of the five projects,  
> only one
> (the New Compiler project by Mathieu Suen) is still being worked on.  
> Damien
> has stopped working on Monticello 2, but Colin has remused the work  
> on that,
> even though he's not using Damien's code. I have no news about the  
> other
> three projects. Guys, would you mind sending a quick status report?
>
> For their effort, we received 2500 USD, which are currently in my  
> current
> account. My apologies for not having sent them to Esug yet, but the  
> cheque
> from Google arrived while I was moving to London, so after putting  
> it into my
> account, I kinda set it aside. I'll wire the money to the Esug  
> treasurer
> asap.
>
> To sum up, here are the positives and negatives for last year's SoC:
>
> Positives
> - Five students got to be paid for their work, and we got paid for  
> mentoring
> them, too.
> - We got lots of visibility
>
> Negatives
> - None of the projects, except one, are still being worked on
> - With the possible exception of the new compiler project, the SoC  
> projects
> did not have any impact on the main Squeak image.
>
> This brings us to the other part of my message, which is the 2008  
> edition of
> the Summer of Code. Unless the board decides otherwise, I'm willing  
> to lead
> the SoC team to apply and possibly partecipate in this year's SoC. In
> comparison to last year's effort, I propose two changes:
>
> - we apply as "Squeak Foundation" instead of simply "Squeak". This  
> would
> allow us to include other projects such as Seaside, Croquet etc more  
> easily.
> - we choose more "down to earth" projects that have a bigger  
> possibility of
> being included in the software we release (the main Squeak image,  
> Seaside,
> Croquet etc).
>
> There are also some more modifications which I'll propose on the SoC  
> mailing
> list.
>
> As usual, comments and flames are welcome.
>
>        Ciao,
>
>                Giovanni
>
>

> I like your vision.
> Yes I would like to have really simpler projects with concrete impact.
> - improving the shadowing report in the compiler
> - improving code formatting
> - GTK support (a smart student here would like to work on that).
>
> On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:04 PM, giovanni wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> in no more than two weeks, the 2008 edition of the Google Summer of  Code will
>> start. It has been brought to my attention that I never sent a final  report
>> for last year's edition, so here it is.
>>
>> Last year we partecipated in the Summer of Code with five students:  Damien
>> Cassou, Mathieu Suen, Jerome Chaveau, Ben Schroeder, and Oleg  Korsak. You

>
> On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:04 PM, giovanni wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> in no more than two weeks, the 2008 edition of the Google Summer of  
>> Code will
>> start. It has been brought to my attention that I never sent a final  
>> report
>> for last year's edition, so here it is.
>>
>> Last year we partecipated in the Summer of Code with five students:  
>> Damien
>> Cassou, Mathieu Suen, Jerome Chaveau, Ben Schroeder, and Oleg Korsak.  
>> You can
>> learn more about their projects by visiting the Summer of Squeak blog,  
>> at
>> http://blog.summer.squeak.org/ . All the five students completed their
>> projects, and were paid in full by Google. Of the five projects, only  
>> one
>> (the New Compiler project by Mathieu Suen) is still being worked on.  
>> Damien
>> has stopped working on Monticello 2, but Colin has remused the work on  
>> that,
>> even though he's not using Damien's code. I have no news about the other
>> three projects. Guys, would you mind sending a quick status report?
>>
>> For their effort, we received 2500 USD, which are currently in my  
>> current
>> account. My apologies for not having sent them to Esug yet, but the  
>> cheque
>> from Google arrived while I was moving to London, so after putting it  
>> into my
>> account, I kinda set it aside. I'll wire the money to the Esug treasurer
>> asap.
>>
>> To sum up, here are the positives and negatives for last year's SoC:
>>
>> Positives
>> - Five students got to be paid for their work, and we got paid for  
>> mentoring
>> them, too.
>> - We got lots of visibility
>>
>> Negatives
>> - None of the projects, except one, are still being worked on
>> - With the possible exception of the new compiler project, the SoC  
>> projects
>> did not have any impact on the main Squeak image.
>>
>> This brings us to the other part of my message, which is the 2008  
>> edition of
>> the Summer of Code. Unless the board decides otherwise, I'm willing to  
>> lead
>> the SoC team to apply and possibly partecipate in this year's SoC. In
>> comparison to last year's effort, I propose two changes:
>>
>> - we apply as "Squeak Foundation" instead of simply "Squeak". This would
>> allow us to include other projects such as Seaside, Croquet etc more  
>> easily.
>> - we choose more "down to earth" projects that have a bigger  
>> possibility of
>> being included in the software we release (the main Squeak image,  
>> Seaside,
>> Croquet etc).
>>
>> There are also some more modifications which I'll propose on the SoC  
>> mailing
>> list.
>>
>> As usual, comments and flames are welcome.
>>
>>        Ciao,
>>
>>                Giovanni
>>
>>
>
>
>

> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:38:37 +0100, Andreas Raab wrote:
>
>> Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>>> I bet one (1.-) CHF that GTK support will not be included in the next
>>> Squeak release, not counting 3.10, not talking about an optional
>>> package.
>>
>> Why does everyone seem so exclusively focused on doing something that
>> ends up "in the next Squeak release"?
>
> Well, hum, I was the one who doubted that? ;-)

> I have a couple of ideas for Summer of code projects, I don't know how
> relevant they are but they are useful projects for people who are interested
> in rnning Squeak on small devices.
>
> One is porting Squeak natively to and/or making it work efficiently on
> Chumby.
>
> http://www.chumby.com
>
> Chumby is interesting in a way that it is very hackable both in hardware and
> software terms.
>

> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:55:26 +0100, stephane ducasse wrote:
>
>> I like your vision.
>> Yes I would like to have really simpler projects with concrete  
>> impact.
>> - improving the shadowing report in the compiler
>> - improving code formatting
>> - GTK support (a smart student here would like to work on that).
>
> I bet one (1.-) CHF that GTK support will not be included in the  
> next Squeak release, not counting 3.10, not talking about an  
> optional package.
>
> /Klaus
>
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:04 PM, giovanni wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> in no more than two weeks, the 2008 edition of the Google Summer  
>>> of Code will
>>> start. It has been brought to my attention that I never sent a  
>>> final report
>>> for last year's edition, so here it is.
>>>
>>> Last year we partecipated in the Summer of Code with five  
>>> students: Damien
>>> Cassou, Mathieu Suen, Jerome Chaveau, Ben Schroeder, and Oleg  
>>> Korsak. You can
>>> learn more about their projects by visiting the Summer of Squeak  
>>> blog, at
>>> http://blog.summer.squeak.org/ . All the five students completed  
>>> their
>>> projects, and were paid in full by Google. Of the five projects,  
>>> only one
>>> (the New Compiler project by Mathieu Suen) is still being worked  
>>> on. Damien
>>> has stopped working on Monticello 2, but Colin has remused the  
>>> work on that,
>>> even though he's not using Damien's code. I have no news about the  
>>> other
>>> three projects. Guys, would you mind sending a quick status report?
>>>
>>> For their effort, we received 2500 USD, which are currently in my  
>>> current
>>> account. My apologies for not having sent them to Esug yet, but  
>>> the cheque
>>> from Google arrived while I was moving to London, so after putting  
>>> it into my
>>> account, I kinda set it aside. I'll wire the money to the Esug  
>>> treasurer
>>> asap.
>>>
>>> To sum up, here are the positives and negatives for last year's SoC:
>>>
>>> Positives
>>> - Five students got to be paid for their work, and we got paid for  
>>> mentoring
>>> them, too.
>>> - We got lots of visibility
>>>
>>> Negatives
>>> - None of the projects, except one, are still being worked on
>>> - With the possible exception of the new compiler project, the SoC  
>>> projects
>>> did not have any impact on the main Squeak image.
>>>
>>> This brings us to the other part of my message, which is the 2008  
>>> edition of
>>> the Summer of Code. Unless the board decides otherwise, I'm  
>>> willing to lead
>>> the SoC team to apply and possibly partecipate in this year's SoC.  
>>> In
>>> comparison to last year's effort, I propose two changes:
>>>
>>> - we apply as "Squeak Foundation" instead of simply "Squeak". This  
>>> would
>>> allow us to include other projects such as Seaside, Croquet etc  
>>> more easily.
>>> - we choose more "down to earth" projects that have a bigger  
>>> possibility of
>>> being included in the software we release (the main Squeak image,  
>>> Seaside,
>>> Croquet etc).
>>>
>>> There are also some more modifications which I'll propose on the  
>>> SoC mailing
>>> list.
>>>
>>> As usual, comments and flames are welcome.
>>>
>>>       Ciao,
>>>
>>>               Giovanni
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

>
>
> 2008/3/5, Norbert Hartl <[hidden email]>:
> > On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 03:18 +0200, Tansel wrote:
> >  > I have a couple of ideas for Summer of code projects, I don't know how
> >  > relevant they are but they are useful projects for people who are interested
> >  > in rnning Squeak on small devices.
> >  >
> >  > One is porting Squeak natively to and/or making it work efficiently on
> >  > Chumby.
> >  >
> >  > http://www.chumby.com
> >  >
> >  > Chumby is interesting in a way that it is very hackable both in hardware and
> >  > software terms.
> >  >
> >
> > Very good. It would be wonderful to have a good support for the
> >  most prominent arm cores. There are a lot of nice devices which
> >  have an arm core. The openmoko phone (FIC 1973) [1] and the Nokia
> >  N810 [2] are just two of them. And they all feature a touchscreen.
> >  I'm not sure if the chumby is based on openembedded [3] but it looks
> >  like. So chumby and openmoko are both based on openembedded.
> >  There is also a openembedded support for maemo [4]  which tries
> >  leverage the barrier to develop for it [5].
> >
> >  The native porting initiative could care about integrating to
> >  build of squeak into openembedded. Tony Garnock-Jones has done
> >  this [6] for the openmoko phone.
> >  I don't know what interfaces exist in squeak to have access to
> >  a touchscreen. A way to go could be to enable support for tslib
> >  [7]
> >
> >  And, of course, I would like to have a calibration software for
> >  my wiimote in squeak [8] :)
> >
> >  Norbert
> >
> >  [1] http://www.openmoko.com/ and http://www.openmoko.org
> >  [2] http://www.nokia.co.uk/N810
> >  [3] http://www.openembedded.org/
> >  [4] http://maemo.org/
> >  [5] http://dev.openbossa.org/trac/mamona/
> >  [6] http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/08/23/squeak-and-openembedded
> >  [7] http://tslib.berlios.de/
> >  [8] http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >