who can edit squeakvm.org?

 
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:49:07PM -0700, tim Rowledge wrote:
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> > On 16-04-2018, at 12:27 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > Hi All,
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> >     this page http://squeakvm.org/index.html is woefully out of date and misleading. 
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> On 22-11-2016 Dave pointed out that Ian has given him keys to that set of pages.
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> > We could at least provide accurate information about the Spur 32-bit and 64-bit releases, and the SqueakJS VM alongside the older VMs couldn't we?  Shouldn't we?
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> We should, we could, and to be honest I'd prefer to see squeakvm.org divert to a VM page on squeak.org Having two sites with  conflicting info is insane.
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I have sudo permissions on the squeakvm.org server, but I don't manage the web
site or home page. I think the appropriate thing is to suggest some changes
and ask Ian Piumarta (the site owner) to make an update.

I am attaching a copy of the index.html for the squeakvm.org home page. It's
pretty simple, so if someone would like to edit and improve, we can send that
back to Ian for the update. In addition to sudo access, I also have his email
account in Japan (which he prefers to keep private and separate from his gmail
account), so I can forward any updates to that mail address as well (I have the
feeling that a lot of mail to his gmail account goes unnoticed).

Dave

 
On Wednesday 18 April 2018 05:33 AM, David T. Lewis wrote:

Would something like this make sense?

Save the attached index.html and view it in a web browser.

I re-ordered the list in reverse chronological order and updated the links. Should this page refer back to Squeak Home?

Draft attached.

Regards .. Subbu

 
On Wednesday 18 April 2018 09:00 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:

Maybe also include this link:

http://squeak.org/development/ which is a beautiful page!

Also, I don't see links to http://opensmalltalk.org/ on squeak.org <http://squeak.org> but it's also a nice landing page.  Sending people to that page instead of git would be better IMO, it's a nice landing page.

Thanks for the quick feedback. Updated draft attached.

Regards .. Subbu

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:47 AM, K K Subbu <[hidden email]> wrote:

 
On Wednesday 18 April 2018 09:00 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:

Maybe also include this link:

http://squeak.org/development/ which is a beautiful page!

Also, I don't see links to http://opensmalltalk.org/ on squeak.org <http://squeak.org> but it's also a nice landing page.  Sending people to that page instead of git would be better IMO, it's a nice landing page.

Thanks for the quick feedback. Updated draft attached.

Regards .. Subbu

Very nice! 

 
On Wednesday 18 April 2018 09:00 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:

Maybe also include this link:

http://squeak.org/development/ which is a beautiful page!

Also, I don't see links to http://opensmalltalk.org/ on squeak.org <http://squeak.org> but it's also a nice landing page.  Sending people to that page instead of git would be better IMO, it's a nice landing page.

Thanks for the quick feedback. Updated draft attached.

Regards .. Subbu

 
On Wednesday 18 April 2018 11:32 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:

Hi Subbu,

Can we please lose the "experimental"?  The distinction is between stable and tip, or stable and development.  Back when Spur was being developed it was an experiment.  Now it is a stable VM under development.  The same goes for the Cog V3 VM.

How about this version? The page needs to be brief (but accurate) and redirect any viewers to the main site where more detail may be presented.

Regards .. Subbu

 

Not sure if everyone agrees but fwiw,

Latest virtual machines used in Squeak v3 and newer versions

Might be better stated as

Spur, Cog, Stack and Squeak v3 virtual machines.

The suggestion is because not everyone knows what a V3 virtual machine is. IMO the purpose of this page is to get people to the latest Spur VM and therefore it should be the first thing mentioned.  

We might [also | instead] add a small description at the bottom

* "v3" is the original object representation for Squeak as described in the <a href='http://ftp.squeak.org/docs/OOPSLA.Squeak.html'>back-to-the-future</a> paper

All the best,

Ron

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:17 AM, K K Subbu <[hidden email]> wrote:

 
On Wednesday 18 April 2018 11:32 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:

Hi Subbu,

Can we please lose the "experimental"?  The distinction is between stable and tip, or stable and development.  Back when Spur was being developed it was an experiment.  Now it is a stable VM under development.  The same goes for the Cog V3 VM.

How about this version? The page needs to be brief (but accurate) and redirect any viewers to the main site where more detail may be presented.

Regards .. Subbu

 
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 04:04:57PM +0530, K K Subbu wrote:
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> I will defer further edits to dtl to wrap up this thread.

Please - I am not responsible for the squeakvm.org home page, and I will
not personally be making any changes to it. That should be Ian Piumarta
(piumart at gmail dot com).

My $0.02: Some updates to the squeakvm.org page are certainly in order, but
much of what is being discussed in this thread can and should be maintained
on the squeak.org and opensmalltalk.org sites.

My own suggestion for a very limited update to the squeakvm.org page was
in an earlier reply on this thread.

Dave